читать дальшеIn the May 15th episode, they show Shatrughan participating in the divyastra pradhan yagna of K-L (another invention, since what Shatrughan participated in was their naam-sanskar. But leaving that detail aside):
Is it the purpose of the Sagars to portray irony here, if they later show Shatrughan battling Kush & Luv? B'cos, all the accounts that have Shatrughan battling Kush and Luv don't have him going to Mathura, and Valmiki, who is the one that has him going to Mathura, doesn't have him fight them. In the previous serial, there was a consistency that Shatrughan obviously couldn't recognize them as the babies whose naming ceremony he had presided over. So there was no harm done by them battling him.
But in this serial, K-L now know Shatrughan, since they've been initiated by him. So when they see the horse, wouldn't they have natural reservations about fighting him? Or will the serial depict them as ingrates and fight him anway, or give both parties amnesia? Given how this has gone, if and when they do show the yagna battles, it would be appropriate under this storyline if they don't show Shatrughan as battling them.
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Thanks bhaiya. I watched the vid u posted... there are so many different stories of Madhu& Kaitabh, isn't it??
Devi bhagvatam says that Vishnu kills M&K on his thighs by crushing them since they were not killable anywhere in water. If that was so then how can they be killed in a duel?
I read the story in uttarkand 7-63 , this is confusing me
any idea how this arrow travelled to Rama?
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I think this being the Ramayan (ostensibly), they should have stuck w/ the Uttarkand version of the story, instead of bringing in the Devi Bhagvatam version. Granted that different literary sources have conflicting stories, but when being serialized, it is, or at least should be, the job of the sсript writers to pick the ones in the sources that they select in a way that is consistent w/ each other and make sense.
Also, in 7-63, Rama narrates to Shatrughan this story almost like Krishna narrating something to Arjun - it's like he knew not only that he was Vishnu (as Brahma revealed to him), but every detail of Vishnu. I think he may have just invoked it, and then given it to Shatrughan. The episode yesterday where he opens a jewel case and showcases the astra was quite comical, but nothing compared to what else they've shown so far.
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In last night's episode, they showed Rama narrate to Shatrughan the incident between Vishnu vs Madhu/Kaitabh, where Vishnu created an astra for the explicit purpose of killing them, and Rama gives Shatrughan that astra to kill Lavanasura.
Now, they showed this in the previous Ramayan serial as well, but there, there was a discrepancy between what they showed in the Lanka-kand, before the killing of Atikaya, vs what they showed in the Lav-Kush-kand, before the killing of Lavanasura. In the former, they showed Madhu/Kaitabh humiliate Shiva and Vishnu - in fact, when Vishnu sent his sudarshan chakra to kill them, it returned w/o doing anything. In their vanity, they offered Vishnu a boon, and Vishnu asked them to reveal how they could be killed. They responded by saying that the t&c of their death was that they could only be crushed within Vishnu's thighs. Hearing this, Vishnu took a gigantic form and crushed the 2 of them within his thighs. The only problem w/ that Sagar account was that he mentioned Kumbhakarna and Atikaya as Madhu/Kaitabh, when in fact, Kumbhakarna, w/ Ravan, was Vijaya and Jaya. In the Uttarkand part of it, they showed what they showed last night
et al - know which of these versions is correct? If it's the former (minus the detail about Kumbhakaran), then how does that square w/ what Rama tells Shatrughan - which incidentally is there in Valmiki? If it's the latter, as shown last night, why couldn't Vishnu simply use his sudarshan chakra or his mace to kill them: why did he have to create another weapon? Incidentally, they showed Vishnu using a bow for the first time. Wouldn't he have to remove the gadha and padma from his 2 front hands in order to use the bow and arrow, and if yes, where did he take them?
Another question - we know Ravan & Kumbhakarna were Jaya & Vijaya. Who was Indrajit - meaning, what was his origin in a previous birth? If Atikaya was one of Madhu/Kaitabh, could Indrajit have been the other?