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«Чандра - циник, вернулся из Калькутты. Утешает.. Золотко ты моё...

Okay, here is one question I've wondered:

After Sita left, Rama threatened to destroy the earth if Bhoomi Devi didn't restore Sita. Instead, why didn't he threaten, or actually execute the Avadhis - the ones who had caused this in the first place? Release a weapon like the Narayanastra, which was his, and have it take effect after the yagna was complete. Destroying the earth would have been an overreaction, but destroying the culprits - anyone think that Brahma would have objected?

Oh, and Sita's speech, which she did not make, doesn't count as an answer.»

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In the original story, Sita never gave any bhashans. She just took the oath and left, w/o looking at either Rama or her kids. It was that simple. None of that 'please let me get you as my hubby everytime' BS. Чандра - я люблю тебя!!

Think about it. How would it have been fair had Sita left burdens on those who survived her? She never told K-L in this story not to blame anybody for her sacrifice, and she never asked Rama to love his subjects despite what they did to her, as depicted in the previous serial. Nor did she tell them anything about obeying their father.

And her reason for leaving, though unstated, was also pretty simple. Had she taken an oath that she'd have survived, she'd have left a message that it's okay to sacrifice one's honor in lieu of prestige, such as being the queen. She did not take the oath so that K-L would succeed the throne. Here, she's made to look like Kaikeyi - wanting the throne of Ayodhya for her own sons so badly that she's willing to die and leave a huge guilt footprint on everybody so that her sons get it. Bharat was the yuvraj - anybody think that she'd have been opposed to his sons getting the throne of Ayodhya? In fact, Kush did not replace Bharat as Yuvraj even after this incident. So how does this rationale for taking the oath even make sense? (Oh, and does anyone seriously believed that she'd have actually overriden the rajmatas?)

The Sagars - both Ramanand and Anand - have bas***dized this story (particularly this incident) beyond recognition AngryAngryAngry

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... и ушла к маме

...хотя детей мужу оставила.
Вообще - жуткая сцена. Пробирает особенно, когда дети плачут, руки протягивают.
Народ сильно Дебину хвалит. Отдадим ей должное!
Насчёт Гурмита все разделились на два лагеря: середины нет, или хвалят на ура или, в такой же степени, ругают.
Мне все понравились, особенно - дети.
Дети плачут, бабушки плачут, народ плачет, Рама (да что там, Гурмит - непередаваем).. Ох.
Мать Земля - молчит. Забрала Ситу и - вниз. Эх, не помирился ты со второй тёщей, Рамачандра!








Valmiki guarantees that Sita is sinless. Everybody looks at Ram to see what decision he takes.
Ram folds his hands to Valmiki.
Ram - Rishivar, for Ram your words are God's words and truth. I know that Luv and Kush are my sons. My soul knows that the moment this Ram suspects his Sita will be the last moment of Ram's life.
Valmiki - Then what is the reason Raghunandan that even today devi Sita is standing before you like this?
Ram - Rajdharm. You know rishivar that a king's life is devoted to his people. So long even one Ayodhyavasi suspects Sita, their king cannot accept Sita.
Valmiki - If this is so, then Sita is ready to give the test of her chastity.
Kaushalya - Never. Sita will not give any test. This is the decision of Ayodhya's rajmata Kaushalya.
Kaikeyi - Enough. Our Sita has suffered a lot. We will not let her suffer any more. Ram, Sita is Ayodhya's Maharani and Sita will have to accept Sita.
Sumitra - Ram, when the husband does not suspect his wife, then how do the people come in between?
Kaushalya - This test is an insult to Sita's purity and I will not let that happen.
SIta - Ma, please do not be angry. If this is what my swami wants, then I am ready to take the oath. I will take the oath not because I have to prove my chastity and my devotion towards my husband but because I want my sons to get their lost right. I do not want that once again people question my sons' identity. I do not want that like me, they also face insults. I know that even if this matter is suberted today, then one day again a mother's honour will be put at stake.

Jivan ke sangharsh se Vaidehi gayi haar
Bhagn hriday lekar kare Bhagvati kare karun pukar
Visham paristhiti Sita ko is mod pe laayi hai
Bhumi ki beti sharan Bhumi se maangne aayi hai
Vidhna nahi samaaj hi iska uttardayi hai
Bhumi ki beti sharan Bhumi se maangne aayi hai

Sita - I, the daughter of Janak, take this oath in the presence of all the Ayodhyavasis that if, by heart, words and action, I have worshipped only my swami Raghunandan Sri Ram, then O mother Earth, give me room in your lap. O mother Earth, if I never thought of anybody other than my swami, then let me enter you this very moment, mother. If, every moment, all the eight pahars, I have thought of Raghunandan Sri Ram, then O mother Earth, take me in your protection. I am your daughter. I grew up playing in your lap. By your blessings, I got Raghunandan Sri Ram as my swami. Mother, your daughter is calling you. Listen to your daughter.
There are tides in the ocean. There is thunder. The Earth splits and mother Earth appears seated on a throne.
Sita - Ma, take me in your arms. Your daughter is tired giving one test after another. I do not have any more strength left. Take me in your aanchal.
Earth goddess spreads her arms affectionately. Sita moves towards her.
Everybody is crying. The rajmatas, Sita's sisters, her devars, Hanuman, Luv and Kush are in tears.Ramji also is finding it difficult to hold his tears now.
LK - Do not go, Ma. Do not leave us. Please stop. We cannot live without you. Please do not go. We do not want any right. We do not want anything.
Sita - You will have to take your right.
LK - Take us with you. We do not want to stay here.
Sita - Do not let my sacrifice go to waste. Your father and Ayodhya need your love. I am leaving you with your father. Obey your father. Remember that a father's place is supreme and it is the biggest duty of sons to serve him. (Vashishth and Vishwamitra nod in approval.) Promise me that you will not blame anybody for this sacrifice of mine. Promise me.
Luv and Kush nod.
Ayodhyavasis - Forgive us, Maharani. Do not punish us all for the sin of one.
(Idiots, why cry now?Angry)
Sita - I am not punishing anybody. Think that this is my fate. (To Ram)Swami, I pray only this much to God that whenever I am born on Earth, I get you as my husband and I am never rejected by you.
Ram - No Sita, you cannot reject me like this and go.
Sita - I am not rejecting anybody. I have always accepted everybody -you, mothers, Laxman, Bharat, Shatrughan bhaiya, everybody else. But now it is the time for me to go. Give me your blessings.

Sita sits on the throne besides mother Earth. The throne goes down and the ground again becomes level. Ram stands and screams Sita's name.

запись создана: 25.06.2009 в 01:01

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Эпизод от 24 июня

Взрыв. Море слёз и аплодисменты. В категории "И все сказали: "Ах!".
Сита покинула поверхность Бхуми.
И два эпизода на коронацию детей, разговор с Калой, уход Лакшмана и т.д.? Хмм..


PS В субботних сказках планирую рассказать про Вибхишана.
А вобще, если Рамаяна закончится, то и я закончу. Устал уже, да уже никто и не читает, так что без разницы.

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Эпизод от 23-го июня

Насколько великолепным был вчерашний эпизод, настолько слабым и патетическим был эпизод сегодняшний.
Если Сагары будут двигаться такими темпами, они к пятнице Рамаяну не закончат. А если закончат, то это будет скомканнейший конец, когда-либо показанный по телевидению.
Плюс эпизода - торжествующая полуулыбка Рамачандры после объявления царского решения(которую все почему-то назвали гримасой. Это - не гримаса!).


и ещё надо добавить в плюсы сцену с Каушальей ( я её назвал по грубому "Уйди, старушка, я - в печали", хотя Рама такого матери не скажет по определению)



Минусы - всё остальное, кроме реакции детей.
Моё мнение: я не люблю характер Ситы. Не люблю вообще, с самого начала.
И не только характер Ситы. Я не люблю Дебину Баннерджи. Сперва я не мог понять, что в её внешности меня отталкивает. Но присмотревшись поближе, понял - её зубы. Кроме двух передних, все остальные - мелкие и треугольно острые, как у ракшаски.
Но бог с ней, со внешностью. Рассмотрим характер. А характер получился МСТИТЕЛЬНЫЙ.
У меня с этим проблемы личного плана. Я абсолютно не перевариваю мстительных и завистливых людей. У меня к ним иммунитета нет. Я их по возможности избегаю, чего бы мне это ни стоило.
Сагары утверждали, что они показывают Ситу как мать, с материнской добротой в глазах. Не знаю не знаю! Какая к чёрту мать? Сита даже с детьми возиться не умеет. Только гордость (что, в какой-то степени, могло бы быть для богини и царицы хорошо) и тщеславие. И желание подколоть и отомстить всякий раз. Ну это, наверно, типичный женский характер Кали Юги. Но передать исключительный характер женщины Трета Юги у Дебины Баннерджи не получилось. Сегодня я просто не мог на неё смотреть. А Вальмики был просто (от слова "простота") патетический и не убедительный ни разу. Но может это так и надо было? Рама (т.е Гурмит Чоудхари) ему не поверил. Браво исполнителю главной роли!

запись создана: 24.06.2009 в 00:49

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Эпизод от 23 июня - 2

Вот вам, для примера: сцена разговора Ситы с Вальмики.

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Напоминаю, как по ходу сценария дело было. Сита вызвалась добровольно уйти в изгнание, несмотря на протесты Рама и на то, что была беременная, оставив нашего Рамачандру с разбитым сердцем.

Вот эта сцена - чемпион по просмотрам.

Прошли годы, дети родились и выросли. И вдруг такое изменение в мировоззрении. Во всех напастях виноват Рама. Это из-за него дети страдают и Сита, как мать, молчать не будет! Вот такой финт. И смотрят супруги друг на друга по недоброму, а посередине - дети. Им-то какая радость.
Сколько лет - то истории? 10000? И цари? И хоть что-нибудь поменялось с тех пор в человеческих отношениях?



Ram - Before me, it is the people of Ayodhya who should believe that these boys are the sons of devi Sita. If she wants that I accept these boys as my sons, then she will have to come to Ayodhya and give the proof of her chastity in front of public.
All are shocked beyond belief. Luv and Kush are not able to say anything. They greet Ram with folded hands and go out wiping their tears. Ram grimaces.

After the assembly is over
Kaushalya - What kind of justice is this Ram? Such a big punishment for being a woman? She has already given fire-test. In my opinion, even that was not justified. If you do not have faith in her, then any test is of meaningless. And if you have faith, then there is no need of any test. You are so insensitive Ram that your sons are in front of you but you cannot hug them. Rather, you ask for proof. Didn't you feel like taking your sons in your lap, Ram?
Ram - I wanted to, Ma.
Kaushalya - Then why did you continue to sit on the throne quietly?
Ram - Because I am bound by rajdharm. Try to understand my helplessness. I have so much of faith in and love for Sita that whole of my life, I can sleep on the ground and live like a hermit. But if people doubt Sita, then I cannot sit on the throne with her. Ma, did you hear the dissending voices of public? That is why I took this decision that Sita will have to give the proof of her chastity. Then such voices will not be heard.
Kaushalya - Who has made this rajdharm, Ram and why has he made it?

Ram goes to Sita's statue.
Ram - Sita, at least you can understand me that I am not doing it for my honour but because I want all Ayodhyavasis to give you the same respect, which they gave you earlier. I want them to treat Luv and Kush the way they treat me. I want that they should consider you as their Maharani wholeheartedly. I know how much everybody is pained by this decision of mine. But nobody knows how much I am pained that I cannot hug my own sons, I cannot call them as my sons. Only I know what I am going through. Everybody is thinking that I am punishing you and Luv and Kush. But the truth is that I am myself being punished. When this news reaches you, what will you think of me?

Sita sees Luv and Kush coming on a chariot driven by Sumant.
Sita - Looks like Luv and Kush are coming with Arya Sumant.
Bhardvaj - May be Sri Ram has sent the chariot to bring you.
Sita - But why didn't he come himself?
Bhardvaj - Devi, when he sent you to the forest, then also he did not come.
The chariot reaches the ashram. Luv and Kush are crying.
Sumant - Pranam Maharani. Pranam rishivar.
Sita - What happened Luv and Kush. Why are you crying?
But Luv and Kush do not say anything.
Sumant - Rishivar, Ayodhyapati Sri Ram has sent this letter for you.
Valmiki - Please read what is written in it.
Sumant - Maharshi, I beg your forgiveness. I cannot dare to read this letter. You please read it yourself.
Valmiki looks the letter and is very worried.
Sita - What happened gurudev? What is written in it?
Valmiki - Ayodhya's king Sri Ram has written that if Maharani Sita wants him to accept her sons, then she will have to come to Ayodhya and give the proof of her chastity.

Sita is so shocked that she does not know what to say. She goes to her room and keeps on thinking about the letter. Luv and Kush come there.
Kush - Ma, now you will not face any test. If pitaji does not accept us, then no problem. We do not want to go to the palace. For us, you are both mother and father.
Luv - Ma, when you have done nothing wrong, then why any test? We will not go to pitaji. We will live here in this ashram.
Sita - No sons, you should not talk like this about your father. You should respect your father and the dynasty of Raghu. You should not forget that you also belong to the same dynasty. And it is your duty to maintain the honour of that dynasty.
Kush - But pitaji also should respect you and he should not forget that you are a Maharani of Raghu dynasty.
Luv and Kush go out of the room.

Valmiki - Bhardvaj, I never thought that such a thing can happen.
Bhardvaj - Gurudev, you know everything.
Valmiki closes his eyes for sometime.
Valmiki - I can clearly see Luv and Kush as the scions of Ayodhya, Bhardvaj.
Bhardvaj - Gurudev, this problem?
Valmiki - This problem is temporary. Once again, I will challenge the play of destiny.

Sita - Gurudev, is this justified to reject one's own sons only to satisfy the public? Why are they being punished for the purpose of society? First I was punished. Now my sons. Gurudev, if I am saying something wrong, then please stop me. Swami was known to be just and compassionate.
Valmiki - I myself cannot understand why destiny keeps on testing you.
Sita - So long destiny was testing me, I was quiet. But now the tests will affect my sons. I will not keep quiet.
Valmiki - Daughter, when the circumstances are not in your favour, then you should have patience. Do not get angry. Pray to God that you should get your honour back in Ayodhya.
Sita - Whether I get my honour in Ayodhya or not but my sons must get their due rights. I want to stop these controversies once and for all. This time, Ayodhya has raised objections not only on a wife's but also on a mother's conduct. Gurudev, I will go to Ayodhya. And this journey will be decisive.
Sita's face is full of tears, anger and determination.

Sita prays to Lord Shiv.
Sita - Lord, today by your blessings, I am going to get my sons their due rights. Give me strength that I succeed.
The ashramvasis gather around her.
Sita - What is the matter?
One rishikumar - We are happy that you are going to the palace. We have only one request that after going there, please do not forget us.
Sita - What is this you are saying? I gave two sons in this ashram. How can I ever forget it? How can I forget the love and respect I got here?
Valmiki comes with Luv and Kush.
Valmiki - Daughter, it is not right to delay any more. Let us go.

Nari ki kya tyaag bhavna, purush pradhan samaaj na bujhe
Nishthur nirnay karke kiski kya kshati kar di use na sujhe
Deepshika ka deepshikha hai, kab tak jhanjhavad se jujhe
Apnon ne apne ki aisi dasha banayi hai

Valmiki comes to Ayodhya's palace with Sita, Luv and Kush. The rajmatas are so happy to see their daughter in law after so many years. Sita's sisters shed tears of happiness. Hanuman bows to Valmiki with folded hands. Ram remembers his marriage with Sita. He hangs his head. Somehow he composes himself and looks up again. Everybody stands up. Sita, Luv and Kush greet everybody.
Valmiki - My blessings to all of you. Please be seated.
Ram and Sita look at each other but this time there is no smile.
Valmiki - Raghunandan Sri Ram, devi Sita is here as per your order. If you wish and if you still stick to your decision, then you can give a test for Sita's chastity. But before that, I want to make a request. All the rishis, maharshis, gurus and the members of the royal family, I, Maharshi Valmiki, the tenth son of Pracheta, announce that whatever I have spoken in my life is only true. With all the people on this Earth and all the gods in sky, I, Valmiki, take oath on that truth and I say that these two boys Luv and Kush, who are born of Sita, are your sons. I have put not only my body but also my souls in my hundreds of years of askesis. By my yogic power, I could see Sita's chastity that gave her room in my ashram. I take oath in the name of my yogic power that devi Sita is the personification of chastity. Raghunandan, I know that devi Sita is dearer to you than life. I also know that you do not have even slightest doubt on Sita. But only the fear of the censure from public is stopping you from accepting devi. But I give you assurance that sin cannot even touch Sita. And if it has ever happened, then let me lose all the virtues I have earned at this very moment. If you believe me, then come forward and accept Sita and give her her due place on the throne of Ayodhya.

@темы: Рамаяна

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А ты такой холодный, как айсберг в океане..

Дааа..
Серьёзно, Гурмиту Чоудхари -

В какой-то момент я думал: "Только не Каушалья, только не Каушалья!!" Но Сагары ведь без этого не могут. Хорошо, что хоть всех трёх "бабушек" к Раме отослали, ибо сцены Рама-Каушалья один на один как-то зашкаливают.
Ох и крут наш махарадж, ох и крут.. У него не забалуешь! Сегодняшняя сцена была круче чем убийство Равана и агнипарикша вместе взятые!




Великолепнейшая сцена, вошедшая в историю - "Рама покидает дарбар".

uv and Kush reveal that they are Ram's sons. All in Ram's family shed tears of happiness. Ram himself is in tears on seeing his sons.
LK - Accept our greetings, Ayodhyapati. We Luv and Kush are the sons of Ayodhyapati Sri Ram and devi Sita.

Some Ayodhyavasis - Oh they are our princes, the scions of Ayodhya. Please accept your sons, Maharaj.
Luv and Kush are very happy to hear this.
But some people raise dissending voices.
They say - How will it be proved that these boys are telling the truth? How will it be proved when Maharani is not here?
The two groups of people start arguing.
Ram moves towards Luv and Kush. All are waiting with bated breaths. All eyes are on Ram. Luv and Kush are waiting eagerly. But Ram walks past Luv and Kush and goes to his room. The happiness quickly turns into despair. Hanuman is shown to be shocked beyond belief on seeing this.

Valmiki rishi is meditating on a hill top.
He thinks - Sri Ram did not hug their sons? If daughter Sita comes to know of this, she will be so shocked. Before she hears this and something untoward happens, I must reach the ashram.

Ram is alone in his room, remembering the questions raised by Luv and Kush during the battle. He also remembers how Luv and Kush refused to stay in the palace because Sita was insulted there.
Kaushalya, Kaikeyi and Sumitra come there.
Kaushalya - Ram, you did not even look at those boys like your sons? They are parts of your own heart, Ram.
Kaikeyi - You left the assembly as if they are not your sons but your enemies.
Sumitra - They were so eager to meet their father and you?
Kaikeyi - Have all of your emotions died? Why didn't you hug them?
Ram - Which father would like to hug his sons, Ma?
Kaushalya - Still you turned your face away from them?
Ram - I was helpless.
Kaushalya - But I am not helpless. I am not going to repeat the mistake I made when Sita was being exiled.
The rajmatas look determined and they go out.
Ram thinks - Why doesn't anybody think of the turmoil in my heart? I am so helpless because of rajdharm that I cannot hug my own sons.

Luv and Kush are talking outside the palace.
Luv - Bhaiya, I thought that when pitaji comes to know that we are his sons, then he will be very happy and will hug us.
Kush - Yes, Luv. I also thought that pitaji will be very happy of our valor and would like to know about mother.
Luv - But pitaji neither asked about mother nor met us. Perhaps, we did something wrong.
The Rajmatas come there.
Sumitra - You did nothing wrong.
Kaikeyi and Sumitra hug Luv and Kush. Then Kaushalya hugs them and gets emotional.
Kaushalya - You do not know how much I cried for you. When I saw you the first time, then itself I felt that you are my own.
Kaikeyi - You did not think of your dadi? You did not tell us even once that you are my Sita's sons.
Sumitra - Why didn't tell us?
LK - Dadi Ma, we also wanted a lot to meet you all and tell about us. But we were helpless and were waiting for the right time.
Kaushalya - How is my bahu Sita?
Kush - Ma is fine, Dadi Ma?
Luv - Is pitaji angry with us?
Kaushalya - No, he is not. Rather, he is very happy. But
Luv - But what?
All the three dadis are unable to give any answer.
Kush - We understand. When pitaji rejected Ma, then he was bound by rajdharm. Today, when he has to accept his sons, then also he is bound by rajdharm.
Luv - Then Maharani Sita was alone, but today her sons are with her.
Kush - We will never let the rajdharm affect our mother.
Luv and Kush go leaving their dadis crying.

In Valmiki ashram
Sita - Kumar Bhardvaj, there is no news of Luv and Kush from Ayodhya.
Maharshi Valmiki comes there. Sita greets him.
Sita - Gurudev, there is no news about Luv and Kush.
Valmiki - Do not worry. Luv and Kush are very happy.
Sita - My mind is full of doubts. Please tell me how Luv and Kush are.
Valmiki thinks - Please do not put me in dilemma, daughter. How can I tell you that Ayodhyapati Sri Ram has not accepted Luv and Kush as his sons.
Sita - Why don't you say something, gurudev? Are Luv and Kush fine?
Valmiki - Luv and Kush are very well. They were welcomed in Ayodhya. Their dadis hugged them affectionately. The people are happy that they got the scions of Ayodhya.
(So Valmiki revealed only that part, which would make Sita happy.)
Sita - Why did Swami say? Did he accept Luv and Kush? Did he hug them?
Valmiki turns his face away.
Valmiki - You want to know everything now? When Luv and Kush come here, then know something from them too. They also should have something to say to their mother?
Sita thinks - I think that gurudev is hiding something.

Ayodhyavasis are discussing - Those boys are so brave. It is not easy to defeat Bharat, Laxman and Shatrughan. Maharaj should have understood earlier itself that they are his sons. When those boys have themselves said it, then what problem does Maharaj have in accepting them? We will request Maharaj to bring Maharani Sita and to accept Luv and Kush as his sons.
Dissending voices - But what is the proof that they are Maharaj's sons? Tomorrow anybody comes and says that he is Maharaj's son, will be accept him as our prince?

The assembly resumes.
Bharat - Bhaiya, what have you decided about Luv and Kush?
Laxman - You must take a decision about them, bhaiya.
Shatrughan - Yes bhaiya, if you do not accept Luv and Kush today, then it will be a gross injustice with them.
Some Ayodhyavasis - But what is the proof that these boys are telling the truth? Devi Sita should herself come here and give proof that these boys are telling the truth and also prove her chastity.
The two factions of Ayodhyavasis again start arguing.
Vashishth - Ram, the Ayodhyavasis present here want to know what decision you have taken.
Ram - Before me, it is the people of Ayodhya, who should believe that Luv and Kush are my sons. If Sita wants that I should accept these boys as my sons, then she has to come to Ayodhya and give the proof of her chastity.
Luv and Kush are shocked like their hearts have been thunder-stricken.

It was a very sad episode and the excellent acting by all made it more so.

запись создана: 23.06.2009 в 00:32

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Ох мааать..

Все застыли с открытыми ртами, что ли? Никто ничего откомментировать не может, кроме одного - emotional.
Чандра же свалил в Калькутту и мне даже поговорить не с кем.
Ну а я, что я-то могу сказать. Только немного. Кто наследует трон в Айодхье?
Юврадж и его наследники. Ювраджем был Бхарат. Трон доставался сперва ему, потом его детям. Лаве и Куше ничего не доставалось, так же как и детям Лакшмана. "Оцарственными" уже были наследники Шатругхны. Так что, неправы были те, кто говорил, что доказательство "законорожденности" нужно было, что бы не возникало династических споров.
А так.. Только честь и долг.

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Финишная прямая

Последние 5 серий - и всё!
Народ даже ничего и не обсуждает больше. Ну, может только, где купить Рамаяну Вальмики и чтобы её читать можно было.
Про дальнейшие планы Гурмита Чоудхари - молчок. А мне интересно, ибо на всех артистов, индийский богов играющих, распространяется этакая специфическая стигма, и с ними или что-то случается, или они остаются в "мифологических" фильмах навсегда, если вообще роль получают. Такова печальная статистика. Поживём - увидим.

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Рабочее - проматываем

How evil minded Ayodhya Vasis are? They have created misunderstandings in between Ram Sita. They have blemished a woman who is impeccable (or pure and chastity woman)
Nobody are equal to agonized Sita's devotion & love towards her husband

Even Maharaj is brave and didn't worried about Sita Vanvas
That effectionate mother had left for the sake of him (Ramji) without thinking for a moment
(Pointing to Vasisht) Even Gurudev was bearing silent expression on his face (It means that he accepted her exile silently)
Lakshman had made her to sit on Chariot)
He left her in a route which was full of thorns & shrubs
All the wise men in city have rejected her and made her to go away

Sita who is desparate turned herself into a saint
She met Valmikiji who was fond of her similar to King Janaka
He made her as his daughter out of effection in his hermitage
Sita who is highly radiant gave birth to 2 sons of Rama

Dear Audience! Sita is born in royal family, she is princess, queen and delightful for all women. This divine lady was given poverty. Till that day, how could she survive struggling for every thing? We shall explain you with an example.
She used to get water from long distance with tears in her eyes


On her way, thorns have bite her

She is duty minded and never thought of 2 different controversial words.

In that situation also, she had brought up her children with good characters. She trained them with good reforms.
She had done all Poojas along with fastings regularly but dedicated the result of Pooja to her husband Ram
She always desired in her heart for the well being and success of Rama
She (Devi) is confronting all dangers. Is it due to destiny (Vidhi Ka Vidhan) or due to the evil desire of people?

Out of illusion, they have suspected her

She is as pure as gold. Although she took Agni Pariksha, the desparate lady was again punished
His (Ram) heart was replaced by stone and so Sita have sacrificed all the things
She who had born and brought up in palace, sacrificed it and went to forest

Ram had won Lanka in battle field, but he couldn't win destiny
That time (first time), Ramji accompanied her in exile, second time he gave her exile
She who is dedicated as monk to her duties, who is ever pure, that Goddess Sita is our mother
We Luv Kush are stars of Raghukul; Shri Ram is our respectable father

We are really lucky by coming near his feet, and singing Ramayan in his presence

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Новый сериал

Кстати, сразу после Рамаяны, тот же канал начнёт Миру показывать - очень хорошая реклама сейчас идёт.

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Из серии - субботние сказки

Шурпанакха втюрилась и охмуряет. Рам над нею издевался, а заморожено-примороженый Лакшман юмора не понял. И потом всем уже абзац было плохо. Но про то- другая история...




Тем не менее женская половина зрителей с Шурпанакхой согласна.

А у Гурмита - явно близорукость ( не первый раз, кстати, заметно)


Наша славная Рупали поместила это видео по моей просьбе.

Оказывается, народ этот эпизод раскритиковал в пух и прах. Сильно досталось Анкиту-Лакшману (удивительно, но моё замечание про "замороженого" оказалось прямо в точку, именно так народ тогда и высказывался). Досталось и Гурмиту. Видно был слишком большой перепад в его игре. А вот красавица Шурпанакха заслужила аплодисменты. И по утверждению старых фанатов, старый же эпизод был гораздо лучше.
Рама и Лакшман отсылали ракшаси друг к другу несколько раз, в конце концов, Лакшман (нет, ни тот ни другой прямо бедолаге не отказывали, они, кстати, и не могли, кшатрийские законы такие тогда были), заявив, что он слуга Рамы и его супруги, зачитал Шурпанакхе список её обязанностей, которые она будет выполнять, когда за него замуж выйдет. Это-то ракшаси и взбесило. Она накинулась на Ситу с намерением её съесть, тут то Рама и приказал Лакшману что-нибудь сделать (помните, как Рама не мог убить Тадаку? Не убивал он женщин, какими бы они не были). Лакшман и отрезал незваной гостье нос. После чего та полетела жаловаться Равану.
То, что показано в новом сериале, конечно, совсем не то. Но, тем не менее.

Shurpanakha proposes and the consequences: Laxman cuts her nose



Shurpanakha takes the form of a beautiful woman and gradually, like a damsel walking in her garden, approaches ram. Ram was busy sharpening his arrows and then looks up.

Shurpanakha directly comes close to him and starts wooing him. Ram takes a step back.



R: respected lady, what do you want?

S: you r so beautiful, you r so strong, you do not fit here. Come with me, to my palace. Let me marry you/. I am the only sister of LANKESH Ravan. The very strong and mighty KHAR,DUSHAN,BIVISHAN are my brothers. Come; be with me, I will give you all the wealth and pleasure of the world. Tell me your name first

R: respected lady, I am the son of Ayodhya Pati Dasarath, Ram.



S: ram, so why r you here as a hermit in spite of being a prince. Your place is at my palace, beside me



R: thank you madam for your proposal, but (pointing at sita) you see the lady collecting flowers? She happens to be my wife. I am already married to her and I have vowed to have only one wife.(here sita comes near them and Laxman arrives with a bunch of twigs.

Ram, with a naughty yet gentle smile points to Laxman and says: this is my brother Laxman; you can see he is as beautiful as I am. So you can marry him.

Shurpanakha sees Laxman and instantly likes him too. She goes to him. Sita watches gently, ram with a naughty smile.

Shurpanakha tries to impress Laxman, by sound of her kankan, tingling of her bangles, moving etc.( I was laughing like madROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL) but nothing can impress this stout man.



At last an angry Laxman looks up



S: do not look at me like that, my love! You do not look at a lover like that. Will you marry me?

L: I am a servant of my brother and sister in law. Will you be able to lead the life of a maid?



Now Shurpanakha understands something is wrong. She is furious. Angrily she says:

Seems like this woman is the root of all evil, she stands between me marrying you two brothers. I will eat her now.

She takes a violent form and goes to vanquish sita. Sita is afraid and moves near Ram. Laxman cannot take it any more. He takes a sword from nearby mattress and straight off cuts her nose.

S: you mean man, and then covering her nose, she runs off crying. Sita looks too afraid to speak

R: what did you do Laxman?

L: I just followed Gurushrestha Visawamitra's order.

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Эпизод от 19 июня

Все как с цепи сорвались. Я имею в виду - зрители. Лава и Куша сказали всем, что они сыновья Ситы и Рамы.
Ну, и как всегда, великолепная сцена Рама - Хануман:













и даже ещё более прекрасный момент, когда до всех дошло, что дети всё-таки сказали.

Ram is sad. He is worried about Sita.
He thinks - Do not where Sita is. I wish those rishi-kumars had said something about Sita. At least, they could have said that wherever she is, she is well.
Hanuman comes.
Hanuman - Pranam prabhu. I accompanied those boys till Valmiki ashram. But prabhu, since the time you have seen those boys, you look disturbed.
Ram - Hanuman, I am not disturbed. I am worried where Sita is.
Hanuman thinks - Prabhu, I know where mata Sita is. But I cannot tell you anything because I am bound by my promise to mata.
Ram - Hanuman, maharshi Valmiki knows everything. He must be knowing where Sita is and how she is, because he has taught my complete life-story to those boys.
Hanuman - Yes prabhu, maharshi Valmiki knows past, present, future. He must be knowing everything.
Ram smiles.
Ram - Hanuman, tomorrow go to maharshi Valmiki and say that he is invited to the yagna with respect.
Hanuman - As you wish prabhu. (he thinks)Yes, maharshi Valmiki knows everything; mata Sita is in his ashram.
(In the dialog between Ram and Hanuman, the facial expressions and the voice modulation of both Gurmeet and Vikram Sharma were so good.)

Sitting in his ashram, Maharshi Valmiki understands what Ram said to Hanuman.
Valmiki - Hey prabhu, why are you inviting me to the yagna? It will not be proper for me to come to Ayodhya now. At the end of the story being sung by Luv and Kush, a great secret will be revealed. Let Luv and Kush remain the narrators of this story.
He decides - I must go out of the ashram. If I get Ayodhyapati Sri Ram's ashram, then I will have to respect that invitation.

Next day Hanuman comes to Valmiki ashram. He meets rishi Bhardvaj.
Hanuman - Rishivar, I have come to meet maharshi Valmiki. Prabhu Sri Ram has invited him to ashwamedh yagna.
Bhardvaj - Maharshi has gone to another ashram to participate in a ritual.
Hanuman - Can you tell where he has gone?
Bhardvaj - Nobody in this ashram knows.

Luv and Kush see Hanuman talking to Bhardvaj.
Luv - Bhaiya, this is Hanuman ji.
Kush - What is Mahabali Hanuman doing here?
Luv - May be he has come to take us to Ayodhya.
Kush - What if he sees mother?
Sita calls Luv and Kush.
LK - Ma, please go inside the hut, fast.
Sita - Why, what happened?
LK - Ma, our musical instruments are missing. Please search for it. We will be back.
Sita goes inside.
Luv and Kush go to Hanuman.
LK - Pranam, mahabali. You are here?
Hanuman - I came to invite both of you and maharshi Valmiki. But I could not meet maharshi.
LK - Yes, gurudev has gone out. So we will go with you.
Hanuman - Will you not let me meet your mother?
LK - Ma is busy. You cannot meet her. We are getting delayed. If we are late, then Maharaj will be angry.
Hanuman - Ok, I will meet her some other day.
LK - Please wait. We will get our instruments.

Luv, Kush go to Sita.
LK - Ma, you found the instruments?
Sita - Yes, the instruments were inside.
LK - Ma, please give us your blessings. Today is the last day of the recital of Sri Ram's story.
Sita - Go sons. My blessings are always with you.
Luv, Kush touch Sita's feet.
The palace is shown. There is Rakhi Sawant inside the palace. (It was an ad.Wink)

All are waiting in Ayodhya's rajdarbar.
Ram - Sumant ji, Luv, Kush and Hanuman have still not come. By now, Hanuman should have come with Maharshi Valmiki.
Sumant - Maharaj, Hanuman never delays. He knows his duty well. He must be coming soon.
Hanuman comes with Luv and Kush.
Ram - Hanuman, where is Maharshi Valmiki?
Hanuman - Prabhu, Maharshi has gone out to take part in some ritual. Nobody in the ashram knows where he is.
Vashishth - Ram, even the people of Ayodhya are eager to hear Ramayan. Allow these boys to recite the story.
Ram signals Luv and Kush to sing the story.
Luv, Kush - (Some initial lines of the song are the same as in yesterday's episode. I am not writing those.)
Valmiki ji mil gaye Siya ko Janak saman
Putri bana vatsalya vat ashram mein diya sthaan
Ram ke do sut Siya ne jaaye

(Audience, Sita is Maharani. That woman, who is pride of women is spending her days in forest. Let us give you a glimpse of how she is spending her days.)

Nange paanv nadiya se bhar kar laati hai neer
Neer se vishad ke nayan bhigati hai
Lakadiyan kaati hai, dhaan-kut chhanti hai
Vidhna ke baan sah-sah muskati hai
Kartavya bhavna ke chakki ke do paaton mein
Bina prativad ke pisti chali jati hai
Kasht mein bhi putron ko sikhake sanskar
Swawlambi, swabhimani, prabal banati hai
Vrat, puja, anushthan karti hai
Prati pal naam bas Ram ka hi leti hai
Jinke taron ne kiya hriday vidin
Mata unko bhi shubhkamna hi deti hai
Vidhi ki vidambna hai
Jag ke naiya ke khevaiya ki hai rani par
Swayam ke naiya ko swayam hi kheti hai
Bhramit sandehi bas tika-tippani hi kar
Kuchh nahi suje unhe, pichhe aur aage kya
Dhobiyon ki drishti bas mail aur dhabbe dekhe
Kapda buna ho jaise aise hi dhage ka
Swarnkar ke swarn mein jaise
Agni mein tapna hi sachhaee hai abhagi ka
Hridayon ke sthaan par pashan jahan rakhe wahan
Mahal mein pali badhi, mahal mein byahi gayi
Mahal ka jivan parantu bina naam ka
Kaise asamay mein mahal tyaag van chali
Samay tha jab dekhrekh vishram ka

Kar ke sangram jab Ram Lanka se chhudaye
Par nahi tuta jivan sangram ka
Tab vanvaas mein nibhaya saath Ram ji ka
Ab vanvas kate diya hua Ram ka

Ho, karm yogini param punita
Maat hamari Bhagvati Sita

Ho, hum Luv, Kush Raghukul ke taare
Pujya pita Sri Ram hamare
All are shocked to hear this. They cry. Then they become happy to see the sons of Ram and Sita.

Dhanya hum inke charnon mein aa ke
Ram nikat Ramayan ga ke
(The song was very beatutiful. While Luv and Kush were singing, the expressions of Ram, his family and friends were shown. The expressions were so good.
Very good episode.)

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И бессмертная, все времена пережившая

сцена. Была, есть и будет непревзойдённой.
Праджа ремикс:

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Эпизод от 19 июня

Ну что же! Сравнивать, так сравнивать!
Исполнение Рамаяны Лавой и Кушей.
Раджмахал ремикс № 1:


tbc

Раджмахал ремикс №2. 55 лет спустя:



На 3:30 Лава и Куша поют:

Ho, karm yogini param punita
Maat hamari Bhagvati Sita - наша мать Бхагавати Сита.

Ho, hum Luv, Kush Raghukul ke taare
Pujya pita Sri Ram hamare - соответственно: наш отец - Шри Рам.




Raam Katha

Om shree Ganeshay Ridhi siddhi sahitaay namah
Om satyam shivam sunderam shivani sahitaay namah
Raja gurujan praja sarve saadar namah
Veena vadini sharde rakho humara dhyaan
Samyak vaani shuddh swar humko karo pradaan

SABKO VINAY PRAAN KAR
SABSE ANUMATI MAANG
LUV KUSH NE CHHEDA SARAS
RAAM KATHA KA RAAG

Hum katha sunate Raam sakal gun gram ki
hum katha sunate Raam sakal gun gram ki
ye Ramayan hai punya katha shree Ram ki
Raam vajhra ke sabhi vanshdhar
vachan parayan dharm dhurendar
kahein unki kathayein bhoomi ayodhya dhaam ki
yahi jana bhoomi hai purushottam gun gram ki
yahi jana bhoomi hai purushottam gun gram ki
ye ramayan hai punya katha Shree Ram ki
ye ramayan hai punya katha shree Ram ki


chitra shukla navami tithi aayi madhya divas me Raam ko laayi
bankar laushalya ke lala prakat bhaye hari param kripala
Raam ke sang jo bhrata aaye Lakhan bharat shatrughn kahaye
Guru vashisht se charon bhai alpkaal vidhya sab paayi
munivar vishvamitra padhare maange Dashrath ke drig taare
bole Raam lakhan nidhiyan hai humare kaam ki
hum katha sunate purushottam gun gram ki
ye Ramayan hai punya katha shree ram ki

SABKE HRIDAY ADHEER KAR BHAR KAR CHAAP ME TEER
CHAL DIYE VISHVAMITRA SANG LAKHAN OR RAGHUVEER
pratham hi raam taadka maari ki muni aashram ki rakhvaari
bin fal baan maareech ko maara shat yojan gira saagar para
vyathik ahilya ka kiya pad raj se kalyaan
pahuche prabhuvar janakpur karke ganga snaan

Siya ka bhavya swayamvar hai siya ka bhavya swayamver hai
sabki drishti me naam ram ka sabse upar hai
siya ka bhavya swayamver hai

janak raaj ka kathin pran taaran rahe sunaay
bhang kare ko shiv dhanush le vahi siya ko paaye

vishvamitra ka ingit paya
sahaj Raam ne dhanush uthaya
bhed kisiko hua na gyaat
kab shiv dhanu toda Raghunaath
nikat viksh ke aa gayi veli
siya jaimaal Raam ur meli
Sunder shashvat abhinav jodi
vo upma di jaye so thodi
karein dono hi mil kaanti koti rati kaam ki
hum katha sunate purushottam gun gram ki
ye Ramayan hai punya katha shree ram ki

SABKO DUBOKAR RAAM KE RAS ME
LUV KUSH NE KIYE JAN MANN BAS ME
AAGE KATHA BADHATE JAAYEIN
JO KUCH GHATA SUNATE JAAYEIN
KAISE HUI VIDHINA KI DRISHTI VAKR
SAFAL HUA KEKAI KA KUCHAKRA
RAM LAKHAN OR SITA KA VAN GAMAN
VIYOG ME DASHRATH MARAN
CHHITRAKUT OR PANCHVATI
JAHAN JAHAN JO JO GHATNA GHATI
SAVISTAAR SAB KATHA SUNAKE
LUV KUSH RUKE AYODHYA AAKE
gaya vijay ka parv manaya Raam ko avadh naresh banaya
niyati kaal or praja ne milkar aisa jaal bichaya
do avibhajya aatmao par samay bichhoh ka aayaa

Avadh ke vaasi kaise atyaachaari
Ram siya ke madhya rachi samdeh ki 1 chingaari
kalankit kar di nishkalank naari

CHINTIT SIYA AAYE NA KOI AANCH PATI SAMMAN PAR
DHEERAV RAHE MAHARAJ BHI SITA KE VAN PRASTHAN PAR
MAMTAMAYI MAAO KE NAATE PAR BHI PALA PAR GAYA
GURUDEV GURUJAN JAISE SABKE MUKH PE TALA PAR GAYA
SIYA KO LAKHAN BITHAKE RATH ME
CHHOD AAYE KAANTON KE PATH ME
GYAAN CHETNA NAGAR VASIYON NE JAN SAB KHO DAALI
TAB ASHAAY SIYA KE EK MAHARSHI BANE RAKHVAALI
VALMIKI JI MIL GAYE SIYA KO JANAK SAMAAN
PUTRI BANA VATSALYA VAT ASHRAM ME DIYA STHAAN
Divya deep devi ne jalaye Raam ke do sut Siya ne jaaye

shrotagan Sita ek raaj kanya hai raaj rani hai naari jati ko mahima mandit karne vali ye mahanaari vanvaas ko gareema pradaan kar vaha apne din kaise bita rahi hai iski 1 jhalak prastut hai..

Nange paaon nadiya se bharke laati hai neer neer neer se vishad ke nayan na bhigaati hai
lakdiya kaatti hai dhan but chhatti hai vidhna ke baan seh seh muskati hai
kartavya bhaavna ki chakki ke do baato me vo bina prativaad kiye pisti hi jaati hai
aise me bhi putron ko sikhake saare sanskaar swavlambi swabhimaani svabal banati hai
vrat upvaas puja anushthan karti hai prati pal naam bas Raam ka hi leti hai
jinke taano ne kiya hriday videen mata unko bhi sada shubhkaamna hi deti hai
Devi pe jo aapda hai vidhi ki vidambhna ya praja ki uthayi hui abhi ki reeti hai
jagat ki naiya ke khivaiya ki hai Rani par swayam ki naiya sita swayam hi kheti hai
bhramit sandehi bas tika tipaddi hi kare kuch nahi sujhe unhe peeche or aage ka
dhobiyon ki drishti bas mael or dhabbe dekhe kapda buna ho chahe kaise hi dhaage ka
swarnkaar swarn me sacchayi ki jachayi kare agni me tapna hi dand hai abhage ka
hridayon ke sthan pe pashaad jahan rakhe vaha kispe prabhaav ho siya ki grah tyaagi ka
mahal me pali badhi mahal me byahi gayi mahal ka jeevan paranu mila naam ka
aise asamay me mahal tyaag van chali samay tha jab dekh rekh vishraam ka
karke sangram Raam lanka se chhudaye laaye kram nahi tuta par jeevan sangram ka
tab vanvaas me nibhaya saath ramji ka ab vanvaas kate diya hua Ram ka

hooooooooooo
karamyogini param punitaaaaa......
maat hamari bhagvati Sita......

hooooo...
hum luvkush Raghukul ke taare....
pujya pita shree ram humare....

DHANYA HUM IN CHARANO ME AAKE....
RAMA NIKAT RAMAYAN GAAKE....

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