... и с горя в реке утопились

Чандра - такой циник, уже всё расписание знает.

My prediction (assuming that they don't go the Ananda Ramayan route and have Sita return):

Sita 'getting swallowed by the earth' this Friday

Next week will be KKS passing away, Bharat's conquest of Gandhara, Lakshman's conquest of Karupadhadesh, Lakshman's encounter w/ Durvasa, Lakshman passing away, Rama handing over Kosalas to K-L and Rama and Lakshman 'drowning in a lake'.

Ааа - у него тут ошибочка вышла! Пошёл общаться...

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И ещё

Тут новое промо-видео показали и официально объявили о конце сериала.

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Опять - понедельник

и шоу - продолжается.
Что обсуждают? А ничего - учебный год закончился и всё затихло.
Что показывают? Дошли детки до стольного города и начали местным жителям мозги вправлять песни петь. Хорошо так и душевно. Слухами стал город полниться и дошли слухи до раджи, который сих риши-кумаров к себе во дворец и пригласил. Принял их со всеми почестями и по отечески благословил, предварительно, правда, не забыв воскликнуть: " А! Это опять вы??!!".
Судя по описанию (и скорости появления перевода), эпизод должен быть хорошим, семейные ценности, опять таки...

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Из серии - субботние сказки

Пока всего не узнаешь, пока не поймёшь индийский менталитет, весь этот эпизод может показаться даже где-то скучным. Но на самом деле.. мать честная..
Я делаю перевод.. tbc

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О сериале и не только

Съёмки Рамаяны закончились. А исполнители главных ролей отправились в турне по Индии.
Сам Гурмит признался, что краснеет до корней волос, когда ему кланяются и гирлянды на него вешают. Но что сделано, то сделано и нашему царю и богу надо к этому привыкнуть ибо он живёт в Индии, а значит, не будет ему покоя до конца дней его.

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Да уж! Нет, ЭТО было хорошо! Наследие НТР незабываемо!

June 12

Sita and K-L are back at the ashram. Sita is angry and upset at them, and they try to explain how they only acted in response to provocation by others, and how they'd not have fought them had they been obeyed. They then described their exploits.

Sita told them that the uncle they had fought Shatrughan was their real uncle. They asked to see their father, and she told them that they had seen him, but unfortunately, couldn't recognize him. The kids were shocked, while Sita told them that the ruler in whose direction they were about to send arrows was their father. K-L were mortified to hear that and in tears. Kush told her - in that case, you must be Devi Sita, and Sita admitted that she was. (The special effects here were overdone - spinning around K-L, and enough to give one a headache)

In Ayodhya, Lakshman and Bharat are very remorseful that they failed to capture the horse, and that Rama had to do it. Rama comforted them, telling them that the kids were not ordinary but that they had a great strength - one of stubbornness, which was impossible to defeat Wacko, as well as the fact that their motives were completely selfless. He told them that he didn't defeat them either, but that Maharshi Valmiki intervened and had them return him the horse.

The next day, K-L are sitting in the field, still crying, and recalling how generously Shatrughan, Lakshman and Bharat offered to fulfil their desire if they released the horse. They said to each other that the gods will never forgive us for fighting our father. Then Valmiki arrives and comforts them, and tells them that what they did was unknowingly done, and so no sin would fall on them. Kush told him that they were Rama's sons, and he told them that he had known about it all along. K-L then expressed a desire to go to Ayodhya and see him, but Valmiki told them that at the moment, their mother needed them more.

That night, Sita prays to Rama asking him to forgive his sons, since what they had done was done unknowingly. K-L then approach her, still tearful, and tell her that they'd accept any punishment for what they had done. Sita takes both of them in her arms and hugs them. (This scene was touching)

Valmiki then arrives and tells Sita that nothing will happen to them since what they were done was done unknowingly. Valmiki tells them that it's now their duty to go to Ayodhya and restore their mother's reputation in the minds of the populace. K-L ask how they are to do that, and Valmiki tells them that by singing the Ramayan as they had been taught, it could be done. Next scene is outdoors, where K-L take Valmiki's and then Sita's blessings before leaving for Ayodhya.

At Ayodhya, the words of Luv 'We are Suryavanshis' and that of Kush 'Why did you exile Sita' continued to haunt Rama. Kaushalya approaches him and asks what was bothering him. Rama tells her that the boys he confronted were courageous and asked him questions that no one dared to ask to date. "They asked me why did I exile Sita, knowing fully well that she was innocent". Kaushalya asked him what answer he gave them, and Rama replied the rajdharm response. (Rama however forgot to tell her that they also asked him what about his duty as a husband to a dutyful wife).

Kaushalya then said that she had a question for Rama. Rama asked what it was, and she told him, "Think about this and give me an answer later: have you been fair and just to Sita?" The question hit Rama like a bolt from the blue and he was in tears as Kaushalya left. (Kaushalya's question, and Rama's reaction, both looked awesome)

Alone, Rama said, "Sita, I don't know whether or not I've been fair and just towards you, but I do know that when you left me, you took my entire soul with you to the forest. My body is here in Ayodhya, but my soul has left me for good" (Aside from the last question, Rama's emotions were beautifully captured)

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А что показывают?

Ещё один хороший эпизод. Народ то затребовал раздеть Раму обратно, мотивируя это тем, что его кавача (может переводиться как панцирь или латы) больно уродливо на нём сидит (даже Чандра заметил, хехе). Сагары послушались и раздели всех четырёх братьев. Получилось хорошо. ( Я всегда любил Лакшманову стать. Что есть, то есть!) Если бы Рама на Лакшмана ТАК подольше бы смотрел, то совсем прекрасно было бы. Не подумайте чего. Дело в том, что режиссёр не слишком-то показал это прекрасное братское единение наших Рагхунанданы и Сумитрананды. А без этого сцены с Калой неубедительными будут. 10 эпизодов. Счётчик включён! Это, как знать, когда помрёшь, ей бо..
В этой серии Сита рассказала детям, кто их отец. А перед этим детки азартно Сите докладывали, как они её деверей мочили. К вящей её радости...
продолжение следует.
А переводчики наши, похоже, на летние каникулы свалили, и мне теперь побираться приходиться.
Продолжаю. Я назвал этот отрывок "разбор полётов". Рам братьев ободряет. А сам, тем не менее психует похлеще, чем после победы над Раваной. Но виду старается не подавать. Хотя потом, с матушкой..., но это вы уже видели.

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Эх, Рамлила! Эх, Дашара!

Теперь складываем всё вместе и подпеваем!





Pal pal hai bhaari woh vipda hai aai
Mohe bachaane ab aao raghu-raayi
Aao raghuveera raghupati raam aao
More mann ke swaami, more shri raam aao
Raam raam japti hoon, suno mere raam aao
Raam raam jhapti hoon, suno mere raam ji
Baje satya ka danka, jale paap ki lanka
Issi shan prabhu aao, mukt karaao
Sun bhi lo ab meri duhaai
Pal pal hai bhaari woh vipda hai aayi
Mohe bachaane ab aao raghu-raayi

Raam ko bhoolo ye dekho raavan aaya hai
Phaili saari shristi par jiski chhaaya hai
kyon japti ho raam raam tum kyun leti ho
Raam naam tum
Raam raam ka ratan jo tumne hai lagaaya, sita
Sita tumne hai raam mein aisa kya gun paaya

gin paayega unke gun ko ye kya, itne shabd hi kahaan hai
Pahonchega us shikhari ke kaun bhala mere raamji jahaan hai
Jag mein sab se uttam hai, maryaada purushottam hai
Sab se shakti-shaali hai, phir bhi rakhte sayam hai par
par Unke sayam ki ab aane ko hai seema
Raavan samay hai, maang le kshama

Baje satya ka danka, jale paap ki lanka
Aaye raaja raam kare ham pranaam
Sang laaye lakshman jaisa bhaai

Pal pal hai bhaari woh vipda hai aayi
Mohe bachaane ab aao raghu-raayi

Raam mein shakti agar hai, raam mein saahas hai jo
Kyun hain aaye abhi tak, woh tumhaari rakhsha ko
jinka varnan karne mein thakti nahi ho tum yahaan
Ye bataao woh tumhaare raam hai is pal kahaan

Raam hriday hai mein mere, raam bhi dhadhkan mein hai
Raam mere aatma mein, raam hi jeevan mein hai
Raam har pal mein hai mere, raam hai har swaas mein
Raam har aasha mein meri, raam hi har aas mein

Ho..raam hi toh karuna mein hai, shaanti mein raam hai
Raam hi hai ekta mein, pragati mein raam hai
Raam bas bhakton nahin shatru ke bhi chintan hai
Dekh taj ke paap raavan, raam tere mann mein hai
Raam tere mann mein hai, raam mere mann mein hai -2
Raam toh ghar ghar mein har, raam har aangan mein hai
Mannse raavan jo nikaale, raam uske mann mein hai -2

Ho'aa'ho'aa'ho'ho'ho'

Pal pal hai bhaari woh vipda hai aayi
Mohe bachaane ab aao raghu-raayi
Suno raamji aaye, gun raam ke gaaye
Raaja raamchandra aaye, shri raamchandra aaye
Raamji aaye, gun raam ke gaaye
Shri raamchandra aaye ho'
Suno raamji aaye, gun raam ke gaaye
Raaja raamchandra aaye, shri raamchandra aaye
Raamji aaye, gun raam ke gaaye
Shri raamchandra aaye ho'

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Эпизод от 11 июня

продолжение. Рама "воспитывает" Лаву и Кушу. Хануман и Сита очень за деток боятся.




une 11th

Rama leaves Ayodhya and goes to confront K-L. Valmiki gets a premonition that father and sons are about to fight, so he leaves to intervene. In the meantime, Nani tells Sita that K-L have captured the Ashwamedha horse and defeated SLB as well as Hanuman, and are poised to confront Rama. Sita is shocked to hear this and starts running to the place where K-L are. Oh, and before, Sita had prayed for herself to be able to introduce her kids to her husband today, and have a darshan of him. (I didn't get the point here of showing this, since it wasn't to happen, at least not that day itself Ouch)

Rama is amazed that Hanuman has been captured and asked him why he didn't break free, but Hanuman tells him he can't. Rama then asks K-L why they captured the horse, and they said that they want to ask him a question. Rama rudely tells them that he'd answer no question of theirs, but orders them to surrender the horse. Luv tells him that they are Suryavanshis and they do not bend from their resolve. Both sides then place their arrows on their bows, but their hands are frozen WackoWackoWacko and they are unable to release them. (I didn't like how Rama was depicted being needlessly vicious - he could have simply answered their question and got back the horse w/o anyone intervening Ermm)

Valmiki arrives and stops Rama from launching any arrows and demands to know from K-L why they captured the horse. They explain to him that they wanted to ask Rama a question, and capturing the horse was their way of getting him there. Kush tells him that the question was why did Rama exile Sita despite knowing that she was chaste. Rama gave the usual rajdharm answer about how he had to do that to respect the sentiments of the populace. Kush then reminded him that he was also a husband, and didn't he have any duties towards his wife who always faithfully walked as his shadow. Rama hung his head embarrassed, but Valmiki upbraided Kush for asking such a question Confused(Why?) Kush apologized, and asked Valmiki what he was to do. Valmiki asked them to free Hanuman and release the horse. They did so and handed the horse to Hanuman, and Rama w/o any reaction turned and returned w/ the horse. (Uncharacteristically mean reaction Angry)

Just then, Sita arrived and asked Valmiki where her Raghunandan was, and Valmiki told her that he had just returned to Ayodhya. Shocked that her prayers hadn't been answered, Sita watched tearfully in stunned silence and folded hands as the Ayodhya troops, back towards her, continued towards Ayodhya (Such sadistic scripwriters Angry)

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Рабочее - проматываем

evanagari (????????, pronounced /?de?v?'n??g?ri?/ in English[1]), or Nagari, is an abugida alphabet of India and Nepal. It is written from left to right, lacks distinct letter cases, and is recognizable by a distinctive horizontal line running along the tops of the letters that links them together. Devanagari is the main sсript used to write Hindi, Marathi, and Nepali. Since the 19th century, it has been the most commonly used sсript for Sanskrit. Devanagari is also employed for Gujari, Bhili, Bhojpuri, Konkani, Magahi, Maithili, Marwari, Newari, Pahari (Garhwali and Kumaoni), Santhali, Tharu, and sometimes Sindhi, Panjabi, and Kashmiri. It was formerly used to write Gujarati.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari

I don't think using Devanagiri (if it was that which was used) was that anachronistic because it's the most common used sсript for Sanskrit, and if I'm not wrong, the common language in Treta Yuga and Dwapara Yuga (even the early stages of Kali Yuga) was Sanskrit.


I am not concerned about the Sanskrit. It's the sсript used that bothers me. Yes Devanagari is the sсript used for Sanskrit in recent times but that has nothing to do with whatever sсript was used in Emperor Ram's era. Devanagari, earlier known as Nagari, evolved from the Gupta sсript along with Siddham and Sharada. All 3 of these scripts were used for Sanskrit around 7th/8th centuries C.E. but Nagari became more common over time.

Now here's the issue: even these are not the earliest used scripts in the subcontinent. That honour belongs to ancient Brahmi which is ancestral to a vast number of scripts in South and South East Asia and even parts of Central Asia.

And it is known that the Brahmi sсript was used for Sanskrit, long before the evolution of Nagari, Sharada and Siddham. Confirmed dates for Brahmi back to the 3rd century B.C.E. and there is some evidence that it goes even further back. Sanskrit inscriptions in Brahmi dating back to the 6th century B.C.E. have been found in a few places.

One thing I must mention is that there was another sсript, Kharoshthi, which was mostly contemporary to early Brahmi. It was used by the Gandharas for both Gandhari and Sanskrit. Unfortunately it died out around 3rd century C.E. And it did not spread into the subcontinent proper.

The only "sсriрt" that can make a pre-Brahmi claim is the Indus sсript which has not been conclusively deciphered yet. It does go very far back though (up to and possibly beyond the 26th century B.C.E.). A lot of scholars even think it is proto-writing. Some have argued that is the predecessor to Brahmi while others say that they are not related. It remains a matter of debate.

As you can see, the earliest confirmed usage of Sanskrit in the subcontinent is ancient Brahmi. More or less everything else (Nagari, Sharada, etc) evolved from Brahmi. The rise of Nagari and the earliest evidence of Brahmi are separated by over a thousand years (at least 15 centuries actually). So, given how far back in time we usually place the events of the Ramayan, how could Devanagari be used in Rama's times? Unless of course, we assume that Emperor Asoka pre-dates Ram Shocked

There is of course a lot of debate as to when exactly the events of the Ramayan occured. The oral history is said to go back to at least the 8th century B.C.E. The actual events probably occurred much earlier, probably many millenia earlier. Some use astronomical dating to place it beyond the 7th millennium B.C.E. Whichever dating method we choose, clearly the Ramayana is from a period before the development of Devanagari. It is possible that the sсript used in Ram's era predates even Brahmi and is perhaps lost. We can even argue that there might be a link with the Indus sсript. However, we cannot ask the Sagars to make up a sсript or have them use the Indus sсript whose decipherment is still a matter of debate.

I think, given our knowledge, we can make a safe assumption that an early form of Brahmi or a lost sсript ancestral to Brahmi was in use during Ram's time. Either that or the Rama era sсript died out before evolving into anything else. If in future we find evidence of a sсript, earlier than Brahmi, that belonged to a different branch and was used in the subcontinent and eventually died out, then we can refine our assumption. In any case, we can't really do anything with a lost sсript. At least not on a Sagar Arts show. To deal with that sort of stuff (or even to draw a link with the Indus sсript) you'd need to bring on a team of linguists, anthropologists, historians, epigraphers, philologists, paleographers, archaeologists, etc and I don't see that happening on these serials. Maybe some day HBO will make a show on ancient Indian epics and do something like that. LOL

For now I think it will suffice to assume the Rama sсript to be an ancestor or even earlier form of Brahmi. Given this assumption, using Brahmi is clearly much less of an anachronism than Devanagari which was born over a millennium later. And, unlike the Indus sсript, Brahmi has been deciphered. So I would prefer using the earliest known form of Brahmi if any Sanskrit text has to be shown in the epic. Kharoshthi can be used for any inscriptions used in Gandhara when Bharat conquers that region. Yeah I know we can't expect much from the Sagars but still, this is quite bothersome for me.

I think the best thing would have been to avoid showing the text to the audience. Use simple camera tricks (use over head view or some other angle) when showing Luv-Kush reading the inscription. Use the same for any texts in Gandhara (if they are even planning on anything like that). This way there would have been no scope for doubts

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Ой, ой, ой!

Ну и эпизод сегодня был! На тему: а ну-ка, сынишки, снимайте штанишки, вас папа щас воспитывать будет!
Ох, Рамачандра, запустил ты своих деток, ох запустил!

tbc
Описывается коротко: он идёт, а она бежит, а они целятся, целятся. Весь эпизод,млин, друг в друга целятся. Но присмирели детки, тем не менее и Ханумана развязали. А в промо всё по-другому, тогда, до выборов ещё, показывали.
Хочу сравнить..


В конце. Так было до выборов. Как стало?

Как стало - золотая статуя:




Как стало - связанный Хануман, я уж и не говорю про то, что Лава и Куша поменялись ролями...





Зачем же так порнографически Ханумана-то показывать?!
И Рама научился на левом плече лук носить??!! Под конец? Невероятно!

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А что показывают?

Возлюбленный Чандра сегодня взорвался!!!
Раскритиковал эпизод в пух и прах. Ну правильно! Я же говорю, что Рама частенько перекидывается в свою тёмную ипостась (это то, что я люблю в сериале, кстати), чем наш (теперь уже официально "divine dude") Гурмит и знаменит. Так Рамачандра и перекинулся, да так перекинулся, что непоздоровилось всем: детям, Вальмики и Сите. Сита бежала марафон, но не догнала. Рама же забрал лошадь и отправился в стольный город ягью заканчивать. Теперь замысел Сагаров проясняется. Детки Раму там достанут. Придут на жертвенный подиум и петь начнут...
А что же Чандра? А вот Чандра, тудыть твою, тёмную ипостась Рамы видеть не может. (в отличие от меня).



перекидывается, перекидывается и..

так видит это наша славная Рупали:

Не Рама, а Рэмбо мечта хиндутвы




They will probably show what they did in the previous serial - most of it fictional.

But I absolutely loathed today's episode. Gurmeet's legendary expressions aside, Rama was needlessly vicious towards the kids several times. Upfront, when Kush offered to release the horse if his questions were answered, Rama very rudely refused, and ordered them to release it w/o expecting anything in return. And the most idiotic, inane thing here was both sides hands freezing and unable to release their arrows - this is as bad as the swarna-kamal episodes. In some of the versions, K-L fire arrows at Rama, who parries them, and it's only when Rama gets infuriated and fixes a divyastra on his bow that Valmiki intervenes and stops the fight. Incidentally, Valmiki's role here too was loathesome - having taught them what he had, he now has the gall to tell them that what they were doing was wrong? If it was, it was Valmiki who f-ed up, not K-L. And how dare Valmiki admonish the kids for asking their question.

And I hated the scene of Sita running a marathon, only to end up seeing Rama's back. Also, Rama leaves the scene the moment he gets back his horse, w/o even thanking Valmiki. This is probably the worst depiction of Rama's character that I have seen to date in this serial, bar none

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А вот это я хочу!!

В ДШК показывают ашвамедху в Магадхе!!! С Джарасандхой и Кансой. Джарасандха - царь, который ягью проводит, а Канса - тот, кто за лошадью с войском идёт. Идёт, и хочет придти в Гокулу. Кришна и Баларама продумывают защитную стратегию.

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Рабочее - проматываем!

Why not something different?

There was a recent article saying that the Sagars are going to launch a serial called Mahavir Hanuman soon. At the same time they've also started a remake of Vikram Betaal. This got me thinking. Don't you guys think that these serial makers are wasting their time and resources on the same old material again and again? I mean how many times are they going to make the Ramayan? This new serial on Hanuman is essentially going to be yet another Ramayan serial with some added bits about Hanuman. What gives?

Think about it. There's a wealth of stories in Indian/subcontinental culture and these people just keep going back to the same stuff. How about focusing on Vedic history for example? The Dasarajna Yuddha would be quite epic. Short but epic.

Or how about the Kathasaritasagara? That one's quite literally an ocean of stories that can keep the Sagars going for years!

If they really feel they have to stick to the old material then how about the Raghuvamsa? This would alloow them to remake the Ramayan for the umpteenth time while also giving us something knew with the history of Suryavansh. If they have to revisit Vikramaditya then how about a serial on the life of Emperor Vikramaditya (reconstruct his life in chronological order from all the sources available)?

Instead of brute forcing Jataka Tales into the Ramayan, why not a separate serial on Jataka Tales and other Buddhist literature? Then there's untapped potential in Jain literature. Hey, if you have to revisit the Ramayan, why not do something fresh and give us the Jain Ramayan?

How about other regional literature? The five great tamil epics come to mind. The Mahavamsa and Dipavamsa from Sri Lanka would be great too. And we can go on and on with more material from all over the subcontinent.

I wish someone in the tv world would focus on these other gems of Indian/subcontinental literature for once. There's so much potential.


Agree with u, but don't know what Sagars are thinking about it? It seems that they are very much confident about success of their project

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Given what they did w/ this Ramayan, I do not want Sagars doing any more mytho serials (not that it will stop them, but I won't watch), be it Raghuvamsa or Mahabharat or anything else (Incidentally, even in their 'best' serial JSK, they include some major shockers, like Vasudev, Krishna's father, wrestling Chunar on the orders of Kamsa, and mocking Kamsa - totally out of character). For the same reason, I wouldn't watch any history flicks they show, since that would be as distortable as the Ramayan was (I normally look at the Ramayan as historical, and prefer it w/o any of the miracles added from other versions, such as Lakshman rekha). If they have no new ideas, let them do Vikram Betaal, or include Jataka tales or Panchatantra in their stuff.

If a different and more authentically oriented production house (not Sagars, BRC or Kekta) were to do religious or mytho oriented serials, here is what I'd suggest:

Raghuvamsa (have 2 serials - one showing Rama's ancestors and ending w/ the end of Dasharath, and another showing Rama's descendents, starting w/ the Uttarkand)

Dasha Avatar (not sure whether they should show Kalki)
Vishnu purans
Shiva purans
A complete story of Krishna, including all parts of the Mahabharat in which he appears or is related.
Some day, a Valmiki-only Ramayan, including Uttarkand

Mahabharat (Given how long it is, I'd suggest breaking it into 2 serials - one uptil Yudhisthir's completion of the Rajasuya yagna, but including the narrational parts to Janamejaya, and the next part from the Dhootkriya to Yudhisthir's re-union in swargalok
Exit question: talking about history serials in your context of doing one on Vikramaditya, what on earth was there about Prithviraj Chauhan that made it such a long drawn out serial? And same question about Maharani Padmini - her story was really brief and sad - how on earth does anybody manage to extend it to 100+ episodes? And Padmini fighting the Khilji intruders - give me a break


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sagars hav tried their hands on non-mythological historical ones but failed

M liking Vikram Betal show though i've read it earlier.

I would like to see a show based o kathoUpnishad

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@Chandra: I share your sentiments. The Sagars have disappointed me greatly. Not only do they insist on twisting things around but they seem to be permanently stuck in the 80s on technical issues as well.

As far as BRC goes, the only serial from their stock I still like is the Mahabharat. Yes, even that was neither an accurate nor a complete adaptation. There were many changes and omissions. However, I think the sсript was quite well written and flowed nicely despite the changes. This was due to the talented Dr. Rahi Masoom Reza who wrote the sсript. He had a wonderful grasp of the material. Despite the flaws, I think he did a brilliant job of adapting such a gargantuan piece of work for the television medium and make it relevant for modern times (I like how he focused on issues of democracy and repeatedly emphasized it). The same cannot be said of the Sagars or of BRC's later work.

I recommend reading the critique of Dr. Reza's sсript by Dr. Pradip Bhattacharya. There is a 10 volume reproduction of the BRC Mahabharat sсript and Vol 10 includes The Mahabharata TV Film sсript--A Long Critique by Dr. Bhattacharya. It is a fascinating study of the sсript. The various changes are analysed in detail. Highly recommended.
As for Ekta, the less said the better.

Aside from the things I have listed in the first post that I would like to see some production house adapt for tv (hopefully doing a better than either Sagars or BRC), I would like to add this: one of my dreams is for a high quality tv series on ancient India before the Mauryas. It would be a historical that covers the period from the end of the Stone Age to the beginnings of the Mauryan Empire, covering the Indus and Vedic eras right down to the Mahajanapadas and the Magadha Empire. The connection with ancient Persians should also be explored as well as the Greek and Persian invasions. Maybe it should be broken down into smaller mini-series. With proper budget and academic input this could be a truly fantastic show! It could even spawn a sequel that covers the period from the Mauryas to the rise of the Sultanates.

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Эпизод от 10 июня

А чего, засадить в постель двух самых самых - это была прям режиссёрская находка...



Sugriv moves to take the horse.
Valmiki guru se hui hai jinki shiksha diksha
Ab Sugriv upasthit unki lene shakti pariksha

Sugriv throws his gada. Luv and Kush make the gada ineffective with their arrows. Then they shoot arrows because of which Sugriv starts moving as if he were in a whirlpool. Then he starts flying like a leaf.
Baan Luv Kush ne chalakar
Paida kar diya bawandar
Kabhi niche kabhi upar
Danwadol hain kapishwar
Baan Luv Kush ne chalakar
Paida kar diya bawandar
Kabhi niche kabhi upar
Danwadol hain kapishwar
Bajte the danke jinke
Ve ud rahe bankar tinke
Ran kaushal bhari srishti dekh rahi sari
Achraj mein pade Hanuman
Yugal ki jai bolo
Ram ki jai bolo

Sugriv falls on the ground and faints.

In Ayodhya
Shatrughan opens his eyes.
He shouts - I will not leave you.
Ram - Calm down Shatrughan
Shatrughan - Where am I?
Vahishth - You are in Ayodhya in rajmahal.
Shatrughan - Since when was I unconscious?
Ram - Since yesterday. But do not worry. In your absence Hanuman, Bharat and Sugriv ji have gone for war. What happened? Why are you worried?
Shatrughan - I do not doubt the strengths of Bharat bhaiya, Pavanputra and Sugriv. But those boys are unique. They have answers to all our weapons. They fight as if war is a play for them. Their expertise in war is just like yours.
Ram - Who is their guru?
Shatrughan - Maharshi Valmiki
Ram - Then why have they taken up weapons against us?
Shatrughan - Because they want to meet you.
Ram - War only for this reason?
Shatrughan - Yes because they know that you will definitely go to them to free the horse.
Vashisth - Ram, do they have such a big reason to meet you that they did not hesitate even in indulging in war?
Ram - Gurudev, I also want to know this.

In the battle-field
Bharat fights with Luv and Kush. Bharat's arrow hits Kush's quiver and the quiver falls down.
Kush - Luv, take care of your bow and quiver.
Luv - My bow and quiver are safe. Where is your quiver?
Kush - Maharaj Bharat hit my quiver and it fell down.
Luv - Do not worry bhaiya. I am careful. You use my arrows.
The fight continues. Initially Bharat seems to have upper hand.
Luv - Bhaiya, all our weapons are becoming ineffective.
Kush - There is only one way now. We have to use special divine weapons.
The arrows shot by Luv and Kush cause thunderstorms. Bharat and his army fall unconscious. Only Hanuman is safe.

Bharat hue ranbhumi mein prastut sainya shakti se sajjit
Siya Ram ke putron ko koi kaise kare parajit
Gayi bijliyan kaundh, aankhen hiu chakachaundh
Murchha Bharat ki aayi sari sena chakrayi
Gayi bijliyan kaundh, aankhen hiu chakachaundh
Murchha Bharat ki aayi sari sena chakrayi

Hanuman - Oh God, Maharaj Bharat has fainted?
LK - Mahabali, your king has fainted. Therefore now your should lead the war from your side.
Hanuman - Whose sons are they? Who are their parents, who have given birth to these brave children? They made even Maharaj Bharat faint?
Hanuman sees Ram and Sita in Luv and Kush. He understand that they are Ram and Sita's children.

Dekh bachchon mein bhagvan Kapi gaye pahchan
Balvir ye mahan mere swami ki santan
Dekh bachchon mein bhagvan Kapi gaye pahchan
Balvir ye mahan mere swami ki santan

Hanuman folds his hands.
Hanuman - Lord, they are your sons. How can I fight with your sons? You guide me.
Luv - Bhaiya, this is the time to tie Mahabali. He is very powerful.
Kush - Yes Luv. If we do not tie him, then we will be defeated.
Hanuman does not fight at all. He keeps standing with his hands folded.

Ek or khade kar jode
Vatsalya ki chadar odhe
Bina kiye prativad
Dete ashirvad
Bandh gaye swayam Hanuman
Hanumad ki jai Bolo
Bhakt ki jai bolo
Ram ki jai bolo

Luv and Kush shoot arrows and Hanuman is tied in a rope.
Hanuman - You are great, Lord. You solved my problem. You freed me from dharm-sankat.
Luv and Kush are happy. Hanuman is also happy.

In Valmiki ashram
Sita is doing Shiv puja.
Sita - Lord, I never asked you anything for myself. But today I am asking. If there is any truth in my vrat, my maatri-dharm and my patni-dharm, then let me see my swami today. Let me make him meet his sons, then I will think that all of my duties are fulfilled.

Ram - I have full faith that the horse will soon come back to Ayodhya.
Vashisth - As the horse comes back to Ayodhya, the last stage of the yagna will begin.
Ram - Gurudev, there is always some obstacle in any good work. But I want that no more obstancles should come in the way of this yagna.
Vashishth - Ram, if the purpose is good for the welfare of mankind, then it will always succeed and this yagna is for the welfare of mankind.
Messenger - Pranam Maharaj. Those two boys have defeated Maharaj Bharat, Maharaj Sugriv and Hanuman ji.
Both Ram and Vashishth are shocked.

Sumitra gives the news to Kaushalya
Kaushalya - What? Those forest dwelling boys have defeated such a strong warrior like Bharat? I cannot believe this.
Sumitra - But this is true didi. They have even defeated Maharaj Sugriv and Hanuman.
Kaikeyi - Who are these boys who do not fear anybody.
Kaushalya - Sumant ji had informed that those boys look like suryavanshis. From that time I am worried whether anybody will be able to defeat them.
Ram comes dressed for war.
Ram - Ma, Raghuvanshis do not know defeat. They prefer death to defeat. Now this war has become a war for Ayodhya. Therefore I will myself go in the battle-ground.
Kaushalya - Those forest dwelling boys have become so brave that you yourself have to go on war?
Ram - Ma, enemy is enemy - whether he is a boy or a youth. Moreover those boys have become mystery for me and this is the time to solve this mystery. Give me blessings Ma that there are no more obstacles in the yagna.
Kaushalya - Be victorious. But being a mother, I will always be worried about you.
Ram - Your blessings are my strength, Ma. I will return only with the horse.
Sumitra - Go Ram and take care of yourself.
Kaikeyi - May your fame spread.

In the end it is shown that Ram is moving dressed as warrior and flowers are being showered on him from both sides.

Maon se aagya lekar Raghupati Raghav Raja Ram chale
Karke dridh sankalp atal pran rakhne kul ka naam chale hain
Jinke naam ke sumiran matra se
Jinke naam ke sumiran matra se jag ke sare kaam chale hain
Kaisa vivash kiya Luv, Kush ne, ve karne swayam sangram chale hain
Apne raaj-dularon ke sang karne pita sangram chale hain

Hanuman seeing Ram and Sita and the last scene will be liked a lot by many members here.Smile

It was a good episode.

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26th june is the last episode and it wud end with ramji's mahaprasthan at saryu nadi


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