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Про эпизод

Вы знаете, качество эпизода за 5-е число было такое плохое, что смотреть нельзя. И половина эпизода была эпизодом от 4-го июня. Монтажёры видать ганджи накурились.

Так что только почитать, кому не лениво.





Странно, почему нету описания действительно хорошего момента, когда Рама раздаёт еду (прасад, то бишь). Лакшман проходит к нему явно не по протоколу, потому что между сидящими едоками ходят только те, кто раздаёт. Почему кто ни попадя не ходит? Причина проста - одежда загрязняется (по крайней мере так считается, одежду потом менять надо). Обычно раздатчика просто отзывают .



Sita is doing puja. Luv, Kush and Nani ma also join.
Sita - God, let my vrat be fulfilled so that I see my swami.
Luv - Ma, we found out where we will get the sahastra-dal kamal.
Kush - Whenever you need that flower, let us know.
Luv - Ma, after your vrat is over, we will meet pitaji?
Sita - Yes, son.
Luv - Ma, I will give him such a nice present.
Kush - Let me also see it.
Luv - No, it is only for pitaji.


Nani ma - There is a news that king Subahu has taken shelter of Sri Ram and is free from rishi's curse. Now he keeps on chanting Sri Ram's name.
Sita - This means that Prabhu Sri Ram's fame must have increased.
Nani ma - Yes. As the horse is moving, Sri Ram's devotees are increasing.
Sita thinks - This is what my wish is swami that your name be held higher than Indra's; that your name is taken together with the tridevs (Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh). If I have done any virtuous deed, then may you rule on the Earth for thousand years. May your name be remembered for many yugas.

Hanuman comes to Ayodhya.
Hanuman - Prabhu, the horse has reached near Ayodhya. It will possible reach Ayodhya tomorrow.
Laxman - Now there is no obstacle on the way.
Vashishth - This is a very good news that the horse is returning to Ayodhya after having roamed in all the directions. This means that the yagna will be completed without any obstacles.

Luv is instructing his friends.
Luv - Pull the bow-string to your ear. Then keep one eye closed and take aim at that tree. Now shoot the arrow.
They notice the yagna's horse. Luv notices a message attached to the horse.
Luv reads - This is emperor Sri Ram's ashwamedh yagna's horse. It has been released for roaming freely. Whoever bows to it will get Sri Ram's shelter. Whoever dares to catch it will have to accept the challenge of fighting with Sri Ram's army.
Luv - So this is Ayodhya king Sri Ram's horse.
Luv's friend - How nice this horse looks. Only kings can ride such horses.
Luv - That is why such a message is written on it.
His friend - Let it go.
Luv - I will take it to ashram and see who comes to get it.

Shatrughan's army reaches there.
Soldiers - Where are you taking this horse? Didn't you see what is written on it?
Luv - I saw and read. That is why I am taking it.
Soldiers - This is yagna's horse.
Luv - I know. Go and tell Maharaj Sri Ram that I have accepted his challenge.
Soldiers laugh - You will fight with Maharaj Sri Ram? You are a child. That is why we are not punishing it.
Luv's friends run away.
Some soldiers move towards Luv.
Luv - Stop or you all will be killed. I have ask something to Maharaj Sri Ram. If you wish good for yourselves, then send him to me.
But the soldiers do not heed. They move to take the horse. Luv shoots an arrow. The arrow rains fire and the soldiers run away.

The ashram's boys go to Kush. They are very afraid.
They say - Kush, some king's horse has come. It is yagna's horse and it has been released by Ayodhya's king Ram. Luv has caught it. King Ram's soldiers have surrounded Luv.
Kush runs to help Luv and finds that Luv has caught the horse.
Luv - Bhaiya, see this is Sri Ram's horse.
Kush - Those sainiks?
Luv - Do not worry about them. I made them run away. You want to talk to Sri Ram. That is why I have caught this horse.
Kush - I am very happy with your courage, Luv. When Sri Ram comes to know what happened, then he will come to us.
Luv - Bhaiya, we will return the horse to him only after he has answered our questions. Let us go to the ashram.

Shatrughan's soldiers go to Shatrughan.
Soldiers - Maharaj, he is not any ordinary child. He knows how to use divine weapons. He even has the knowledge of agni-astra.
Shatrughan - Why did he stop the horse? What does he want?
Soldiers - Maharaj, he says that he will not return the horse untill Maharaj Sri Ram himself comes.
Shatrughan - And you got afraid? Is that one boy so strong that you could not face him? Is he some god that he defeated you? It is so shameful.
The soldiers hang their heads in shame.
Senapati - Maharaj, let me go and punish that boy.
Shatrughan - No senapati. It looks like this boy is impressed by bhaiya Sri Ram and wants to meet him. Talk to him affectionately. Ask him to return the horse. If he really wants to meet Ram bhaiya, then bring him here. I will arrange for his meeting with Ram bhaiya.

Senapati goes and comes back to Shatrughan.
Senapati - Maharaj, the army which could not be defeated even by greatest of kings, has been defeated by two small boys.
Shatrughan - What are you saying? You got defeated by two ordinary boys?
Senapati - They are not ordinary. Looks like they are princes. They even have the knowledge of divine weapons.
Shatrughan - What do they want?
Senapati - They insist that they will not release the horse untill Sri Ram himself meets them in the forest.
Shatrughan - When I am here, then bhaiya Sri Ram should not need to leave the yagna and come here. Otherwise, it will be shameful for me. Tomorrow morning, I will myself bring the horse here.

In Ayodhya
Ram - Gurudev, tomorrow morning the horse will reach here.
Vashishth - This means that the yagna will be completed without obstacles.
Ram - Yes, gurudev. Laxman, near the completion of the yagna, the number of guests will increase.
Laxman - Do not worry, bhaiya. Nothing will be lacking in the welcome of the guests.
Sumant arrives.
Sumant - Pranam Maharaj. Two boys have caught the horse. They have defeated our soldiers including the senapati.
Ram - How can it happen that two boys have defeated our army?
Sumant - Maharaj, those boys are amazing. They have storehouse of weapons. They look like suryavanshis.
Ram - Who could they be?

On the other hand, Luv and Kush struggle with the horse and finally subdue it.

Precap - Ram talks to Sita's statue.
Ram - Sita, I did this yagna for peace. But two boys have made me worried. You tell me what I should do.
Kaushalya - Who could these boys be Ram that they have defeated our army? It should not happen that they finally have the upper hand.

Today's episodes had some sudden jumps. It looks like some parts were removed later as an afterthought of making the episode shorter. Moreover, what was shown near the end of the previous episode should actually have been the precap for today's episode.

@темы: Рамаяна

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А что показывают?

Иногда мне кажется, что Гурмита для Вишну даже и гримировать не надо. Он перекидывается из Рамы в Вишну по команде. Голубоватый цвет кожи и второй комплект рук проявляются сами. И что интересно, от серии к серии он всё трансцендентнее и трансцендентнее. Это какой же он будет в последней серии??!!
Вот вам довольно смешной эпизод "Обращение царя Субаху".
Хануман двинул Субаху сперва палицей по голове, а потом - ногой в челюсть. Царь падает с большой высоты и вдобавок, ударяется головой.

@темы: Рамаяна

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Рабочее - проматываем!

Рамаяна - трансгендерное.
Любопытные истории рассказывал Рама Лакшману об Ашвамедхе
The story of Raja Hila/Il


Sarg 87 - King Il's Story

Pleased with Lakshman's words, Raam said - "Whatever stories of Vritraasur killing and Ashwamedh Yagya you told me, they are all true. In olden times there was Il named religious king. He was Prajaapati Kardam Muni's son. He ruled the Prithvi with his own might and courage. He took care of his public like his own children. Even Naag, Devtaa, Asur, Raakshas all used to fear from him. Once he arrived in the forest preying where Bhagvaan Kaartikeya was born. At that time Bhagvaan Shankar was enjoying there with Paarvatee Jee in female form.(Это как?) With the power of Shankar Jee, birds and animals were also turned into females.

Il also came in that Van and found all his soldiers, including himself, in female form. Seeing this he got very sad. After knowing that this was all because of Shankar Jee, he went into the shelter of Shiv Jee. Shiv Jee said - "You may ask any Var except your manhood." He got very sad hearing this so he didn't ask for any Var. Then he went to Paarvatee Jee and said - "Be kind to me, Maa."

Paarvatee Jee understood his purpose, so She said - "Hey Raajan, I can give you only half Vardaan. You can ask half Var from Shankar Jee and ask half Var related to manhood or womanhood from me." Raaja got very happy to hear this, he said - "Hey Bhagvatee, I should be a woman for one month and a man for another month. Give me only this Var." Paarvatee Jee said, "As you wish. When you will be a man, you will not remember anything of your being woman and vice versa." So Hey Lakshman, After that Raajaa Il lived as man for one month and Ilaa named woman for another month.

Sarg 88 - Raajaa Il's Life as Man and Woman

Bharat and Lakshman asked - "Il must have felt very bad living like this." Raam said - "In the first month Raajaa Il was wandering with his women friends in that forest on a hill. Budh, son of Chandramaa, was doing Tap in a pond. Ilaa entered the pond with his women friends. Budh got distracted, seeing that beautiful woman. He came out of the pond, went to his Aashram and thought "if she is unmarried then she is for me". Then he called all those women and asked them - "Whose wife is this most beautiful woman? And why has she come here?" Women said - "She is our mistress and is still unmarried. She also wanders in this forest with us." Then Budh knew all about Raajaa Il by his Yog power and said to those women - "You build an Aashram here on this Parvat and wander here in Kinnaree form, you will soon get Kinnar husbands."

Sarg 89 - Il has a Son - Pururavaa

Then Budh sent all those women with Kinnaree form and then said to Ilaa - "O beautiful, I am Chandramaa's son Budh. You enjoy with me as my wife. Ilaa found herself in a lonely place so she accepted his offer and Budh used to live with her. Thus Chaitra Maas passed in a moment and at the end of the month, Il woke up on the bed instead of Ilaa. He found a Tapaswee nearby in the water raising his hand and doing Tapasyaa.

He said to him - "Hey Tapaswee, I came with my soldiers. I don't know where have they gone." As Budh knew about his Shaap, that he had no remembrance of his being woman, so he said to Il - "Hey Raajan, There was a heavy hail storm, so all soldiers were killed in that storm and you slept in my Aashram frightened with storm. But now you need not to be frightened, you may stay back here in my Aashram and eat fruits and flowers.

Raajaa Il said - "Hey Tapaswee, Now I will go to my kingdom, and see my wife and children. If I will not go now then my eldest son Shashbindu will become the king, that is why I cannot stay here any more." But Brahm Gyaanee Budh managed to keep him there for one year. For one month he used to enjoy living with Budh and next month he used to do religious activities. In the ninth month, Ilaa gave birth to a son. Ilaa gave that son to Budh. He got known as Pururavaa. Thus Raajaa Il passed one year as woman for one month and as man for another month in enjoyment and religious discourses.

Sarg 90 - Later Life of Raaja Il

Hearing this wonderful story of the birth of the son of Ilaa, Lakshman and Bharat said - "Please tell us the story of his later years." Raam said - "After one year has passed, when Raajaa Il became the male, then Budh called Rishi Chyavan, Durvaasaa, Samvart etc and asked the solution of Il's problem.

While Budh was consulting these Muni, Pulastya Muni and Kardam Rishi also came with Balatkaar and Omkaar Muni. Kardam Rishi said - "Hey Munivar, There is no hope for his good, until Bhagvaan Shankar is happy so we should do an Ashwamedh Yagya to please Shankar Jee to do good for him." All Muni supported this and the Ashwamedh Yagya was done nearby Budh's Aashram. At the end of the Yagya, Shankar Jee said - "Hey Rishi, I am very happy with your Bhakti and Ashwamedh Yagya. What good should I do for Il?" Muni said - "Hey Prabhu, Return his manhood for ever, this is our wish." Mahaadev Jee fulfilled their wish and disappeared. All Rishi went to their places and Raajaa Il started ruling the kingdom by habiting a city named Pratishthaa.

@темы: Рамаяна

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А что показывают?

Ладно, обратно к нашей Рамаяне.
Два последних эпизода были странно перепутаны. Все жаловались, что впечатление было такое, как будто одни части вырезали, а другие вставляли задним числом.
Махарадж Субаху и принц Даман сражались с войском Шатругхны. Хануман лично схватился с Субаху, ударил его ногой, и поди ж ты, махарадж сразу в Вишну уверовал и Джай Шри Рама воспевать начал. Бывает.
Лав, тусуясь в лесу с приятелями заметил красивую лошадку. Обрадовался, отловил, прочитал, что на дощечке написано. " О! Шри Рам! ", - обрадовался и войску лошадь не отдал. "Пусть Рама сам сюда придёт, тогда отдам!" Войско - за луки, а Лав их всех Агни астрой.
Так вот, после того, как махарадж Субаху сдался, лошадь-то побрела обратно домой, в айодхинские конюшни. Все и решили, что скоро ягья кончится. Рама, там, Лакшманом командует, чтобы всё для завершения приготовили, но тут такой облом. Гонцы весть приносят: побеждено войско мальчишками. "Кто бы это мог быть?" - задумывается Рам...
А Шатругхна грозится самолично с детками разобраться.
Да, а друзья Лавины позвали на помощь Куша. Ребятки теперь на пару лошадушку охраняют. И требуют Раму перед очи!
Что сегодня, пятница, да? Продолжение будет в понедельник, и ни слова ни прекапа про то как, где и когда Лав - Куш Рамаяну петь будут.

@темы: Рамаяна

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Не люблю у-мылы и большие проекты

Мне почему-то очень редко что-то хорошее на у-мыл пишут. Всегда открываю с установкой: "Ну что ещё!?"
Большие проекты не люблю, потому что на них дорогих ПЧ теряешь. И не просто теряешь, а они с какой-то местью уходят. Безвозвратно и без надежды. В этом месяце Рамаяна закончится, и я дневник опять закрою. Буду обратно "полуведическую" чушь пороть, если вообще буду.
Вчера у меня был день без интеренета. У нас в городе был пожар и землетрясение. Трясёт нас сейчас каждую неделю, по 4 балла, эпицентр - прямо под нами. Кабелю не здоровится.
Зато как вчера мне здоровилось! Я зайцев приручал. Соседский мальчишка прибежал, кричит в восторге: " У тебя, возле сарая, два зайца живут!" "Большие?", - спрашиваю. "Нее, - кричит - подростки!" Эти двое у меня этой весной во дворе за сараем выросли, пока я в сети сидел. Жизнь-то мимо проходит. Так что, так что - Рамаяна кончается, я из сети в реал сгину. На оставшееся лето. Зайцев воспитывать...

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Версии

Рамаяна - камбоджийская версия- весь мир вокруг Равана! Потираю руки..
А интересно, что в корейской версии?

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Жучилки - от слова "жуть". Современное народное творчество по "Рамаяне". Я вот думаю, если народ так вдохновился, может мне конкурс объявить? Слеш тоже можно. Потом собрать все жучилки в один сборник и выпустить под названием "Рамаяна - виртуальная традиция. Влияние интернета на формирование индийского эпоса."

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Рабочее - проматываем!

Рамаяновы жучилки - 3. Джайнистские.
In the Jain versions, Lakshman is coronated instead of Bharat. Lakshman goes on expedition against many Vidhyadhara kings. He also marries thousands of times (as does Ram) but we can leave that out and spend many months on these expeditions

@темы: Рамаяна

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Рабочее - проматываем!

Ханумановы жучилки - 2. Индийские.

Ok enough of Malaysian stories, let's go back to the subcontinent. A few more amusing tales of Hanuman. One day Ram teases Hanuman in court by saying that, he must be tired of the celibate life and he should get married now. Hanuman plays along and, to humour Ram, says that he is old now and who would marry him? Ram pretends to be serious now and asks if he would indeed marry if he did find a girl from him. Hanuman is now in a dilemma and finally says that he would do it only if the girl is also willing. Shatrughna then joins in and says that Manthara would be perfect for him. Hanuman says that woman was responsible for Ram's exile so how can this be possible? Ram says that Manthara has reformed now so that should be no problem now and she will be brought to court the next day to see if she consents or not. That night Hanuman knocks on Manthara's door but she was eating and refused to open the door. Hanuman breaks down the door and goes in. He tells her about the marriage issue and Manthara is happy: she says she is willing to marry him. Hanuman tries to convince her otherwise but she says that, a monkey would be better than no husband for her. This makes Hanuman angry: he grows into a giant and starts choking her (alternatively, he beats her up). She is scared out of her wits and finally promises that she will refuse to marry him. That is what she does in court next day. And Hanuman is free from the dilemma.
Another Hanuman story. Hanuman had a habit of taking on the form of a normal monkey and raid the gardens in Ayodhya. No one dared to do anything because his relationship with Ram. One day some boys decide to trap him in a net and take him to Ram to complain about his activities, especially since he had attacked a grove of fruit trees that they were protecting. They are succesful in capturing Hanuman (who is still in the form of an ordinary monkey). They take him to court where Ram recognizes Hanuman but refuses to do so. He says it is an ordinary monkey and the boys can do whatever they want with him. Later, Hanuman uses his powers to escape the trap and causes welts to appear all over his body. He goes to Ram pretending to having been severely beaten. Ram is sad. Finally Hanuman reveals himself and says that he played a joke on him just he did in court.
One day, a merchant asks Hanuman to describe what it looked like when Hanuman burned odwn Lanka. Hanuman says he can't really describe it in words but he can show it. So he asks the merchant to wrap his tail in some cloth and set it on fire. Hanuman then proceeds to set fire to the merchants shop with his tail. Naturally the merchant is very upset and Hanuman says that that is exactly how the people of Lanka reacted. The merchant complains to Ram in court. When asked for an explanation Hanuman tells Ram the entire story. Ram asks the merchant is this is true and he admits it. He says that he never expected Hanuman to burn his shop down. Ram then asks if he expected Hanuman to burn someone else's shop down to "show" him what it looked like when Lanka burned? Ram scold him and tells him not to engage in such worthless curiosity in future and he compensates him from the royal treasury.

There are many such amusing stories of Hanuman in Ayodhya. I am certain that the Sagars can keep including them in the serial for as long as they want. This has the potential for years of dragging.

Hanuman had once protected Vaishnavi (incarnation of Maa Vaishno Devi) from Bhairo. He gave her water and created a cave for her to rest in. He then wrestled with Bhairo for 9 months while Vaishnavi performed austerities. Eventually she gave up her human form and emerged as Adi Maya Shakti to finally kill Bhairo. She was pleased with Hanuman and accepted him as her attendant and permanent guardian of her shrine.

Story of Hanuman, Matsyendranath and Stri Rajya: Hanuman attended to Ram's every need to such an extend that Sita began to get annoyed. She told him that he is denying her the joy of serving her husband. But Hanuman could not refrain from his devotion to his Lord either. Then she had an idea. She told Hanuman that she wants him to father a child and that he should leave Ayodhya and return only when he had produced a child. She knew that he would never be able to break his vow of celibacy and so her trick would keep him away from Ram forever. Naturally Hanuman was shocked and in despair. He wandered the Earth, singing songs about Ram. One day the women of Stri Rajya heard his song. His song was so powerful and potent that the women were all instantly rendered pregnant! In time, the children were born and they went to Hanuman and showed him how he had actually managed to have children without breaking his vow of celibacy. Hanuman was so happy that he offered them a boon. The women requested him to send a man to their kingdom since there were no men there in the first place. The gods had cursed that any man who entered the kingdom would die on the spot. So they were thirsting for a man.
Now, one day the great yogi Matysendranath came to the shrine of Adi Maya Shakti. He wanted to enter the shrine and learn occult secrets from her. Hanuman stopped him at the gate and they began to fight. Hanuman concluded that Matsyendranath was a worthy opponent and he allowed him to enter the shrine. Matysendranath, in gratitude, offered to do whatever Hanuman asked of him. It is then that Hanuman fullfills the wishes of the women of Stri Rajya: he realized that Matysendranath had the power to resist the divince curse on the land of Stri Rajya and he therefore told him to go the women and give them the male companionship they were so desperate for. Matysendranath gladly carried out Hanuman's wish.

@темы: Рамаяна

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Рабочее - проматываем!

Ханумановы жучилки - Малайзия. Какие умные малайцы!!!

Now here's some strange material from a Malaysian version called Cherita Mahraja Wana: After the end of the Ram-Ravan war, Hanuman inquires if there are any surviving descendants of Ravan. He is informed that there are two infant sons, Setagar Wana and Sepedang Wana. Hanuman wanted to kill them too but the others convinced him to spare them. Vibhishan adopts Ravan's infant sons. Later, Setagar and Sepedang insist on being allowed to leave the capital city, saying that they can complete their studies with Vibhishan at any time in the future. They said they wanted to explore. Vibhishan gave them permission and they eventually go to Melur Ari, the land of Indra (the Malaysian Indra is not the same as the Indian version). They ask for his help to get the throne of Lanka which they believe is rightfully theirs. Indra consults his ministers and finally agrees to get Lanka back for Ravan's sons. He takes four officers and flies to Lanka where he demands that Vibhishan abdicate in favour of Ravan's sons. Vibhishan refuses and says that he is only ruling as Ram's regent and that only Ram had the authority to change the ruler. This angers Indra and he fights and kills Vibhishan! He then installs Sepedang and Setagar as joint rulers of Lanka and returns to his land.

Meanwhile, Hanuman Bongsu (son of Hanuman, I'll explain this in a bit) is sent by his mother to inform Ram, Lakshman and Hanuman of the tragedy. She said that she will keep Vibhishan's corpse in a special casket. Hanuman Bongsu has difficulty in finding Ram and co and eventually stumbles upon his father, Hanuman. Hanuman does not recognise his son and they get into a fight. Finally Hanuman Bongsu is able to convince Hanuman that he is his son. Hanuman takes him to Ram where he explains the situation. Ram orders Hanuman to organize an army, including Angad and Hanuman Ikan (Makardhwaj), and they set off for Lanka. There Hanuman and Angad fight Ravan's sons and capture them. Ram and Hanuman kill them both. Ram inquires if there are any more descendants of Ravan alive and is told that there are none. Then he brings Vibhishan back to life using special flower. Ram restores him on the throne of Lanka and tells him that Hanuman Bongsu will always be with him.

Then Ram sends a flying army to Melur Ari to take care of Indra. They defeat many of Indra's animal subjects but finds it impossible to defeat his two great warriors: an iron-coated frog and an iron-coated lizard. They go back to Lanka and Vibhishan says that inferior creatures like that can only be killed by inferior persons. They call two of Ravan's attendants, Pak Dolong and Wak Long (they are called clowns in some versions), who had two children who were considered "inferior" enough. They are promised the throne of Indra and they are sent to kill Indra's warriors. After some trickery, this is done and Hanuman's forces enters Indra's city. There is a great battle between Indra and Hanuman's armies and finally Indra's forces are defeated. Indra then comes out and engages in sorcery and magic. Hanuman, with Vibhishan's advice, manages to get past the sorcery. Indra and Hanuman fight but they reach a stalemate. Sugreev suggests that Ram should be able to kill Indra so they request Ram to come to the battlefield himself. Indra and Ram fight. Ram is not able to defeat him in a kris (Malaysian dagger) fight so he uses a powerful arrow to shoot Indra dead. Ram installs the sons of Pak Dogol and Wak Long, on the throne (well one of the sons anyway).

In another Malaysian version, it is not Indra who gets involved. Rather it is Raja Sibigadong who attacks Vibhishan to avenge his friend and ally, Ravan. In this version Vibhishan is wounded but not killed.

There is another version where Hanuman Bongsu also gets into a fight with Makardhwaj before learning that they have the same father. Then they all join forces with Ram to attack Lanka and recover the throne from the two sons of Ravan. In this version, Ravan's sons were said to have been born of one his servants.

Now, here is my take on this: obviously the first story can't be incorporated directly since there is no way to reconcile the Malaysian Indra with the Indian one. So I suggest that, take the first story and replace Indra with Raja Sibigadong from the second story.

As for Hanuman's son. This is his story: Hanuman is not a celibate in the Malaysian version. After the end of the Ram-Ravan war, Vibhishan gets his daughter married to Hanuman. Hanuman had initially refused since he wanted to go with Ram and serve him (in this version Ram is Hanuman's father by the way). Ram tells him that he needs to stay with Vibhishan's daughter in Lanka for about a month and then he can join Ram. Sita says that Vibhishan had already declared the marriage in public and he would be humiliated if Hanuman refused. So the marriage happens and later Hanuman leaves her in Lanka while he goes to serve Ram in Ayodhya. In his absence she gives birth to their son Hanuman Bongsu. This is why Hanuman did not recognize him when they first meet. In the second story, Hanuman's wife was pregnant when Vibhishan was overthrown and only Pak Dogol and Wak Long could help her in that situation.

We need to reshape this story to preserve Hanuman's celibacy. We have already seen how Hanuman is able to repeatedly father children without breaking his vow of celibacy. So why can't something like that happen to Vibhishan's daughter? She gets pregnant with Hanuman's son without any physical contact or marriage. Magic!

In another Malaysian story, Pak Dogol and Wak Long serve Ram as attendants and one day he gets angry on them on a silly pretext and orders them out of his palace. They leave. The angry Pak Dogol leaves his body and becomes a giant who then attacks Ram's palace. Some weird things ensue but ultimately it all ends happily for everyone.

In one Malaysian version, when Ram returns to Ayodhya, Dasaratha (who is still alive in this version) objects to the reunion of Sita and Ram and says they must get remarried first. On the advice of the sages, Sita is temporarily sent to wander the jungles. She coms across a "jungle princess" and stays with her using a new name, Mek Hutan. Meanwhile Ram goes on a bird hunt with Pak Dogol and Wak Long. A bird that he was targetting falls in the cave where Sita was living. He reaches the cave and falls in love with the woman but fails to recognize her as Sita. They make love and he later informs his father of the incident. Dasratha is embarassed. Ram's mother sends him on another hunt and then she summons Mek Hutan to court and orders her execution. Mek Hutan asks the executioner to place her body on a raft with flowers. She is then executed ! Ram, still hunting, smells the flowers and find the raft. He is shocked when he finds the corpse and stabs himself to death. Wak Long tries to follow suit but he is afraid to kill himself. He falls on his own dagger and dies anyway. Pak Dogol decides that suicide isn't an option and reports to Dasarath who summons Hanuman. Hanuman was busy meditating on a mountain. He finds the raft and the bodies of Ram and Sita and brings them to Dasaratha. Some supernatural incidents follow and Ram and Sita are finally revived and remarried.
Obviously the above story can't be incorporated intact. So just twist it. The Sagars had no problems taking Jataka Tales and stripping them of all Buddhist elements and then incorporating them, with colourful rakshasas no less! Why not do the same here? Remove Dasaratha from the story, remove Ram making love to a woman he doesn't recoginize to be Sita. Bring Surpanakha back and have her perform some sorcery here. She impersonates Ram's mother and does all the peculiar things while the real Kaushalya is held captive elsewhere. She puts a spell on Sita and makes her appear dead. Ram is shocked and becomes comatose. Hanuman engages in colourful adventures, defeats Surpanakha and revives Ram and Sita and they rescue Kaushalya. Better still, why not have Ram's nephews do this? Why keep them on the sidelines all the time?


In another version of Cherita Mahraja Wana, Hanuman has another son. There is a princess, who is the daughter of Dewa Berembum (who is the god who incarnates as Ram). She has a dream about Hanuman and this dream makes her pregnant. This results in a son called Hanuman Sapu Angin who goes on a search for his father. On the way he meets Hanuman Isan (Makardhwaj) and they fight. Eventually they discover that they are "brothers". Hanuman Isan then directs his "brother" to their father. Guess what? Father and son engage in fight as usual. Vibhishan stops them and they discover the relationship. Hanuman Sapu Angin fights Indrajit who manages to drive off both father and son.

In the same variant as above, Hanuman has yet another son from another princess (who is said to be Indrajit's wife in another version). This son is called Hanuman Tegangga. He defeats a son of Ravan (by a naga princess) who leaves in the sea but was called to battle by Ravan.

In yet another version of Cherita Mahraja Wana, Ram installs Lav-Kush as rulers of Lanka with Vibhishan and Hanuman Tegangga as minister and general respectively. Meanwhile, two sons of Ravan, Sumbu Badung and Sumbu Bandung want the thrown. They were infants when Ravan died and Vibhishan spared them. They get help from another king and attack Lanka. Lav-Kush are hurled into the sky while Vibhishan is imprisoned. Hanuman Tegangga escapes. Ram finds his sons and revives them. Ram and Hanuman take to the skies to attack Lanka. But Betara Guru (Shiva who is partial to the king who overthrew Lav-Kush) creates a storm. Hanuman falls into the sea and is found by the mother of Makardhwaj. By the time Hanuman leaves she is pregnant again and gives birth to another son, Hanuman Baghal. He goes to join his father in the battle and finally they win the war. Ravan's sons attack Lav-Kush. Ram and Hanuman Baghal kill them.

In the same version, there is another adventure of Hanuman Baghal. It so happened that Sita suddenly became unable to sleep. Vibhishan figures out that her soul has been stolen. Ram and his army sets out to find the demon who did this. Eventually they find him and, with the help of Pak Dogol's son (the one who helped Ram defeat Indra's warriors in the story where Indra helps Ravan's sons regain the thrown of Lanka), defeats the demon's forces. But Ram is unable to defeat the demon himself. He summons Hanuman Baghal who defeats the demon. Then Ram kills the demon. But Sita's soul refuses to go home. Then Vibhishan advises Ram to bring Sita's body and make offerings. Finally the soul returns to Sita's body and all is well. In a variant of this story, Sita's soul is transformed by the demon into a white swallow. It is revealed that only women can carry out this mission. So a female army is sent, including Sita's physical body which is somehow able to operate on its own. The only males are Pak Dogol and Wak Long's sons Dewe and Lembek. The demon's forces are defeated excepted one lion which is defeated by Dewe after he promised a reward of a damsel. Sita's soul is reunited with her body. Then Sita, in male attire, kills the demon, Some tweaking is necessary but this is a good opportunity to showcase the royal women of Ayodhya as warriors.


One more Malaysian version: Vibhishan is attacked by the king of Chakravala (at this time Vibhishan is king of Lanka). Hanuman is informed and he goes to fight the demon. But every time he tears the demon in half, the halves join together. Finally Vibhishan tells him to rip the demon's heart out which Hanuman does, killing him.

And in another Malaysian version, Hanuman fights a demon who is too slippery for him to get a grip on. A rishi advices him to sprinkle sand on him which allows him get a hold of the demon and kill him. A variant of this story says that the demon was a son of Ravan (or maybe a grandson, the relationships in the Malaysian version are hopelessly muddled) who was born after 10 years of pregnancy. In this version, even after sprinkling sand and getting hold of him and tearing him apart, the demon keeps coming back. Finally Vibhishan tells Hanuman to throw half of the demon in the sea and to bury the other half. This kills him.



By the way, it is quite common for Sita to get repeatedly abducted in Malaysian stories. And not only her but other royal women too. Such as princesses who were supposed to get married to Ram's sons.

Some of the strangest stories involve Sita becoming a man, defeating other men and marrying princesses!

Also, in Cherita Kusi Serawi which is a sequel to Cherita Mahraja Wana, Kush actually allows himself to be captured by Ram even though Ram could not defeat him in battle. Kush spends some time in prison while Hanuman tracks down his brother and eventually, their mother.

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Update

А я уже говорил, что Сагары "Махавир Хануман" запускают? Фабрика эпосной экранизации не подвержена кризису! Это ж сколько у них сериалов выходит? Мира Баи - раз, Шакунтала - два,Свами Нараян - три, что там ещё...??? Рани Падмини!

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А что показывают?

Эпизод от 3-го июня.
Хороший был эпизод. Ягья началась - во всех подробностях: омовение-обещание-возжигание-возлияния и мантры, мантры, мантры.. Из индийской серии: И это наше всё!
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Я, Рагхувамшадж, Дашаратхнандан, Айодхьяпати Рамчандра!
Я, Субахунандан, Чакрант кумар Даман!
или - первый вызов. А всё-таки, чем Раджасуя отличается от Ашвамедхи?

PS Я понятно пишу, или перевести?

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Ну вот..

Хотел отрывки на Ю-тюб закачать, но кнопка upload не работает. Почему, не знаю, писать в службу лениво, подожду до вечера, может заработает, если нет - открою новый счёт где-нибудь на Фликере.

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Ну всё! Началось!

Началось жертвоприношение коня, а вместе с ней - лавина споров. Возлюбленный Чандра встал в боевую стойку и во всеуслышание заявил, что правитель другого государства ( пусть даже и союзного) за лошадью с войском идти не может! Тогда это надо ему ягью проводить. Таковы правила, предписания и протоколы. Чандра прав!
За лошадью пошли Шатругхна и Хануман. Хануман, по определению никогда не был сенапати Кошалы. Ибо по протоколу, за конём идут: правитель или принц и генерал. Ашвамедхи Дилипы и Юдхиштхиры были внимательно исследованы и выводы сделаны. В случае с Дилипой это был Рагху, у Юдхиштхиры это был Арджуна.
Если кто-то осмеливается поймать лошадь и победить войско, этот кто-то обязан продолжить Ашвамедху, нагрузка на казну, которую далеко не все правители могли позволить. У Лавы с Кушей не было ничего. Они продолжить ягью не могли по определению.
Ну и про вчерашнюю песню. Споры о том, кто пел, висят коромыслом. Заключение экспертов ещё не готово, но похоже, придёться спрашивать либо Гурмита, либо Сагаров. Мнения разделились 50/50. Моё мнение - не Гурмит.

Слушать здесь:

www.zshare.net/audio/608770921bf4a32a/
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PS Кстати, в мой дневник любители Равиндры Джайна заглядывали. Так вот отношения Гурмита Чоудхари и Равиндры и что даже более важно, Равиндры и Гурмита - ученик и учитель, учитель и ученик. Да!

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Поём бхаджаны

Равиндра Джайн - композитор сериала. Можете взглянуть:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL7tLeNTeeI

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Эпизод от 1 июня

Рама встречает Сугриву и Вибхишана.




А потом долго ругается по поводу статуи.





Jai Sri Ram

Sita is talking to Valmiki.
Sita - Pranam gurudev. I suspected my swami though he rejected the idea of second marriage.
Valmiki - There are ways to repent for wrong thoughts coming in mind. You will have to do pati samyog karan vrat. On completing this vrat, you will meet your husband. That is why this vrat is called samyog karan.
(Even for thoughts coming in mind, one has to repent?Shocked Then I will have to repent every second. But read somewhere that it is not required in kaliyug, so good.Smile)
Sita - How is it possible?
Valmiki - Nothing is impossible in this world. There is no end to God's leela.
Sita - Will I be able to go in front of him?
Valmiki - You will not go. Circumstances will bring you.
Sita - Will he come here?
Valmiki - Some decisions should be left on the future. You do your duty and the rest will be good.

In Ayodhya
Ram thinks - Will the sculptors be able to make a statue of my Sita? Will they be able to put life into the statue?
Laxman comes.
Laxman - Bhaiya, the sculptors have started their work.
Ram - When will Sita be completed?
Laxman - At the speed the work is going, it will finish soon.
Ram - What is the news about yagna-sthal?
Laxman - There also lots of work is over.
Ram - Who is looking after the work there?
Laxman - You gave this responsibility to Bharat bhaiya.
Ram - But why is there no news from Bharat?
Laxman - May be he wants to inform you only after the work is complete.
Sumant arrives.
Sumant - Maharaj, Lanka king Maharaj Vibhishan, Kiskindha king Maharaj Sugriv and youvraj Angad have entered Ayodhya together with their armies. By evening they will be over.
Ram - This is a very good news. I will welcome them myself.

Urmila and Shrutkirti are talking.
Urmila - We were thinking so many things about Maharaj Sri Ram but we were wrong.
Shrutkirti - That is why we should not think such things about anybody.
Urmila - But at that time, all were thinking that Maharaj will remarry.
Mandavi - He cannot think of anybody other than Sita didi.
Urmila - But we are not God. We cannot read minds.
Mandavi - Yes, we cannot do anything except getting worried.
Kaushalya and Kaikeyi come there.
Kaikeyi - Why can't you?
Kaushalya - Do not worry, Urmila. We often have such thoughts in mind and later everything becomes clear.
Shrutkirti - Yes and now entire Ayodhya knows that Maharaj Sri Ram follows ek-patni (one wife) dharm.
Kaushalya - This is necessary for maintaining maryada in society. It looks like Ram is the first king to follow ek-patni dharm. I am proud of him.
Kaikeyi - Didi, entire Ayodhya is proud of Ram. Sita is no less. She has tolerated so much.

Vibhishan, Sugriv and Angad come to participate in the yagna.
Ram - It is my good fortune that you have come. I, Dashrath-nandan Ram, welcome all of you.
Sumant - Maharaj, devi Sita's statue is complete. Please come and inspect.
Ram inspects and is not happy.
(Many statues were shown. Does it mean that the sculptors made many statues so that Ram could pick one of them? Or only one statue was of Sita? This part was not clear to me from the episode.)
Ram - There is no comparison between Sita and this statue. Unlike Sita. this statue does not have the expressions on its face, does not have shyness, does not have Ma Kali's power because of which Ravan could not dare to touch her.
Vashishth - This is a very big problem. If the statue is not completed, then how will the yagna be done?
Ram - Is there no sculptor on this Earth who can make Sita's statue?
A voice - Wait Maharaj, I will make devi Sita's statue.
This sculptor is blind.
Sculptor - Give me a chance, Maharaj.
Sumant - But you cannot even see.
Sculptor - I do not need eyes to make the statue.
Ram - But how will you make the statue when you cannot even see?
Sculptor - Give me a chance, Maharaj. I will make the statue the way you want. I will make the statue using my mind's eyes. I will make the statue of devi Sita as you think of her in your heart and for that I do not need eyes. I only want to hear about devi Sita from you.
Ram - Ok, I will show you Sita's image as it is in my heart.

Kaushalya is worried.
Kaikeyi - What happened, didi? Now the golden statue of Sita is being made. Still you are worried.
Kaushalya - How can I be happy when a daughter in law like Sita is in forest and my son is a king and is still living the life of vanvas.
Kaikeyi - Am I not sad? But what can we do? Whatever is written in destiny has to happen.
Kaushalya - I know but being a mother, my heart is not in my control. Whenever I feel that we will get happiness, something bad happens.
Kaikeyi - Come didi, a new sculptor has come.
Kaushalya - So many sculptors came and went. Do not know if this sculptor will be able to make Sita's statue.
Kaikeyi - He is blind since birth and says that he does not need eyes to make a statue.
Kaushalya - My this happen. If the statue is not made, then ashwamedh yagna will remain only a dream.

In Ayodhya
Sculptor - Maharaj, with a quiet mind, think about Sita and explain to me. Then I will bring Mata into gold.
Ram - Sita is greatest amond women, she is a great daughter, a great wife, a great daughter-in-law and when she was going from the palace, she was going to be a moter. Do not know where she is and how she is.

In Valmiki ashram
Luv, Kush - Ma, gurudev has given us divine weapons. Now nobody can defeat us.
Sita - Now you are even more powerful. You were already very powerful.
Luv - Ma, now we have memorized entire story of Sri Ram.
Sita - Then you must have learned a lot.
Kush - Yes Ma, we learned a lot and he killed so many demons.
Sita - You also should become great like him.
Luv - But Ma, why are you here?
Sita - For 21 days, I will live in this temple. I am doing a vrat for which I will need sahastra-dal kamal (lotus of 1000 petals), which you two have to bring. On completion of this vrat, you will meet your father.
Luv and Kush are happy to hear this.
Luv, Kush - Why did you not tell about him before? We will go and meet him.
Sita - You cannot meet him now. Nothing can happen before its time. When the vrat is over, he will come here.
(Wait, Valmiki has still not said it clearly that Ram will come there.)
She thinks - If God wishes, you will definitely see your father.

Precap - Ram is doing a ritual in which he carries a kalash filled with water on his head. He seeks permission from rajmatas to do the ashwamedh yagna. They bless him.

запись создана: 02.06.2009 в 19:39

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