А что показывают?

А показывают жадных Лаву и Кушу.
Далеко от озера с якшой в поисках Кубера Локи они не ушли. Вернулись. Утопили свои луки в озере, а якша им другие выдал - золотые. А надоумил их это сделать верный Хануман.
Ну а народ удивляется, как это так, там, в далёкой Айодхье, Рамачандра с собаками Ханумана не разыскивает? Знает, что тот с детишками няньчится?

@темы: Рамаяна

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И немного об актёрах

А наш герой - мистер Чоудхари засветился, однако, в пенджабских музыкальных видео.
Меня сильно развлекло, когда в последнем интервью он сказал, что сделает всё возможное, что бы его не признавали в других работах как Раму (ну-ну, это как Штирлиц на балу с Наташей Ростовой..) Поздно, дружок!
Кстати, он очень, ну очень хвалил Аамира Хана в этом.. как его.. в Ghajini.

А на видео можно глянуть здесь:
(А Рама-то - левша.. тссс)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDIyUlos8-o
Эх- герой-любовник посреди красот Пенджаба..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PRO3O3QRpE

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Наша долгая дискуссия про Калки аватару

Переводить мне лениво, но если кто знает английский..
Vidhi ka Vidhan is the joke of this 'Kalpa'
Well one thing is that the yug-cycle is realted to vishnu-dashhavatar; the ratios of Satyayug,treta,
Kaliyugis 4:3:2:1 likewise there were 4 avtars of vishnu in Satyayug: Matysa,Kurma,Varah, Nrisimha
Treta: Vaman,Parashuram,Rama (who was born in the last phase of treta yuga)
Dwapar yuga- Krishna,Balram ; somesay ninth avatar was Buddha but if Buddha was ninth avatar then the yr he was born isn't Kaliyuga.
Kaliyuga: one avatar-Kalki yet to come....
But what I don't understand is ,why 4 avatars in SatyayugSatyayug is supposed to be the age of truth and in this age of truth Vishnu had to take four avatars to save this earth or rather truth on earth??
While Kaliyug is the age of iron, age of falsehood and hypocrisy and vishnu wiill take only one avatar
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I think this way. Dunno if it is the right way to think but...in Satya yug, the number of bad guys was not many. One really bad guy cropped up and Vishnu had to come just to finish this guy off. This happened a few times in Satya yug. There was no world annihilation, I think. In Treta yug, the wars with the bad guys was a little bit bigger but still no annihilation. In Dwapara yug, the Mahabharat war came close to annihilation (with so many people being wiped out in the war) but the world was not totally killed off.

In the Kali yug, the whole world is gonna be wiped out to start Satya yug again. Also, Kalki is supposed to arrive only when the majority of the world turns bad. This means not only rakshas but the common man himself will become rakshas like with bad tendencies. So, Vishnu waits until the end (until the world goes really bad) and then finishes it off with just one avatar. More efficient actually!




Somehow, I tend to count Balarama as a part of the Krishna avatar (just as LBS are part of the Rama avatar), since the puran in question has 2 hairs plucked out of Vishnu, and Balarama being the white (grey) hair, and Krishna being the black hair. That may also explain why Balarama was the older of the 2.

Buddha, afaik, was born just as Kaliyug was starting, but after Dwapar yuga ended. So Parikshit, Vajra, Janamejaya - all these descendants of the Pandavas and Krishna ruled in Kaliyug? If one discounts Buddha but counts Mohini, you have 5 avatars in the Satyayug, and only 1 in Dwapar Yuga. But it still begs the question as to which yuga Buddha would be counted as? (Also, if Sita & Rukmini were Lakshmi for Rama & Krishna, then was Yashoda Lakshmi for Siddhartha?)

I agree with analysis, particularly for the efficiency factor (does this imply that Vishnu too has a learning curve? ) Whereas for Ravan/Kumbhakarna and Kamsa/Shishupala/Dantavakra, only one avatar was needed for both Jaya and Vijaya in each yuga, Vishnu took 2 avatars to take care of Hiranyaksha and Hiranyakashipu. Couldn't Varaha have taken out both of them? What exactly was the divine reason that Hiranyakashipu had to be spared?

And Satya yuga will re-start, or will it be another yuga? Also, is Kalki supposed to wipe out everybody, or just the bad guys? And isn't that supposed to be a kshatriya role, rather than a brahmin role?

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Kalki kills only the bad guys. But according to Kalki avatar stories, the number of bad elements will be humungo, almost the whole word with only very few good souls left. I think this is the way it is. Satya Yuga is only a few percentage bad, I think Treta yug is supposed to be 1/2 bad, Dwapara yug 3/4ths, and Kali yug almost fully bad. This is why there is total annihilation in Kali yug. If I have made a mistake somewhere, more knowledgeable persons, please correct me.

After Kali yug, Satya yuga will start again. Kalki will be born to Brahmin parents but he gets fighting training from Parashuram (who is living hidden from this world waiting for Kalki to come). Then he marries Padma (this is Mahalakshmi's incarnation) who is supposed to be born on an island. The Kalki puran says "Sinhala."

There is a lot of specualtion as to whether "Sinhala" is Sri Lanka or some generic island. He will have 2 sons Jaya and Vijaya who will grow up to be very strong. He will forget the reason for his birth and live in 'Sinhala' for a long time. Then he will reminded (like Hanuman is reminded by Jambavan of his strength) of the reason for this avatar. He will become the commander-in-chief of the army only when a big war (almost like a world war) happens. He is supposed to fight 2 major "rakshas" Kok and Bikok (and his minions who are heads of state joined with Kok and Bikok) who have taken over the world. Kalki avatar is globalized and not confined to India alone.

All bad elements will be annihilated, dharma will be established, and Satya yuga will start.
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The rakshasha part somewhat dazes me. Kalki ought to be fighting the UN, as well as all the world governments and bringing them down. Why pretend that rakshashas are the only evil in the world? Or is the usage of the term 'rakshasha' figurative?

Also, if it is a world conflict, why are only Indian names used? Shouldn't we expect names from all over like Andy Chen, Anatoly Krokov, Mahmoud Yassin, Kathy Becker, Charles Brown, Fernando Calderon, Lisa Zhou, et al?



Oh, rakshas is figurative. From the way the Kalki story reads it looks like there will be 2 factions. One faction consists of Kok, Bikok and their side kicks. One of side-kicks' name is Jin. A lot of people are saying (including western experts) that Jin is probably Chinese or some Far East premier of that time. I found this part very interesting. Kalki is not the leader of any nation but only the commander of the 'allied forces.' During the war, he will get defeated by one of the side-kicks (forgot the name) but he wins over the side-kick (the side-kick will have a change of heart when he sees Vishnuji as Kalki) and Kalki marries the side-kicks' daughter Ramaa or Roma or something like that. A peace treaty is signed with this side-kick. Eventually Kok, Bikok, and their minions are killed by the allied forces with Kalki as their commander.

He then establishes the good people who fought with him as 'kings' of various nations and then Satya yuga starts. Kalki avatar ends with Vishnuji going back to Vaikunt. Kalki avatar is supposed to be more powerful than even Krishna avatar. Also, more devas, apsaras, and other celestial being will be born as ordinary human beings during that time to help this avatar as the scale of evil is supposed to be humungo.

Indian names were used by the people who wrote the story in the various purans. They were, probably, not well versed with the names of other countries. From the description of the war, the countries, and other things it is clear that it is not India.
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One thing I found interesting is the return of polygamy here - Kalki having both Padma and Ramaa as his wives In the past, I can understand, but in the future?

@темы: Рамаяна

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Эээ...

А "Джай Шри Кришна" я вообще не могу смотреть.. ну совсем! Хотя там такие Канса и Васудева!

@темы: Джай Шри Кришна

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update от Вришасены, ибо только Чандра один и следит за историей

Хорошо посмеялся над его высказыванием про ручных животных.
В сегодняшней серии Сита сбежала из ашрама Вальмики, и была найдена поисковой группой в глухом лесу на прудике, прикармливающей уток. В принципе, идея не так далеко отходящая от Рамаяны, ибо даже по Вальмики, Сита ушла на год в Расаталу.
А возлюбленный Чандра-бхая решил соединить рыбок Рамы с уточками Ситы в одном бассейне и.. хехехе.. народная фантазия разыгралась!!

Okay, back on topic...

Well, it turns out that we are now into the greed tests (Chen2, leve 2 of Dora is cleared - drumroll please!!! ) In today's episode, Hanuman re-states that the kids have passed the fear test, and now need to confront the test of greed! In Kailash, Narad-ji is rejoicing at the success of K-L.

In keeping with Ananya's observation of K-L being divine - they showed it - Luv was pissed off at the baba (Hanuman) for expressing his inability to climb the mountain, and kicked a rock in disgust. The rock flew off like a soccer ball and hit the mountain, thereby waking up our rock star. That started a battle between K-L and the rock-star. Unlike Chakrasura, who could break K-L's arrows like pencils, K-L's arrows this time were somewhat like Rama's, colliding against the rock stars arms, but not denting it

Oh, and one more of Vidhi's twists today - Sita suddenly disappeared from the ashram, causing panic. Everyone went looking for her, and finally, nani-ji found her, feeding/playing with the ducks. Nani-ji remarked to Sita that she thought that Sita had gone out to search for K-L, but to that, Sita gave a resigned response that she was destined to be separated from her dear ones, and said that since they left, the animals and birds had left as well, so she went to find them and feed them. She then said that since Gurudev might be worried, she'd return to the ashram.

This twist - when they showed it at first - I thought that it would follow the Bhavabhuti story of Sita suddenly going away to Rasatal, which according to that sсript, she did for a year or so? In fact, given that K-L are off on a never-ending search for the swarna-kamal, now might have actually been a good time to do that. I didn't get the point of showing this, if at the end of the clip, Sita is found and agrees to go back to the ashram. But then, nothing much about the serial makes sense at all.

I like Rama & Sita's pet preferences - he seems to like feeding his fishes, and she her ducks. If only they could be re-united, they could have their indoor pool with his fishes and her ducks in it (just make sure the ducks don't eat his fishes, and everything will be fine).

At any rate, those were today's Vidhans.

@темы: Рамаяна

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Чего - то мне как-то всё надоело

Выдохся я.
И от нечего делать, опрос провёл среди своих индийских корреспондентов насчёт политики. И вот что я узнал.
Рам Мандир - храм на месте рождения Рамачандры.
Не сколько, что он не построен, сколько мечеть снесли - вот ЭТО было важно.
Айодхья, как индуистский Ватикан?
Делать, что ли больше нечего. Хиндутву в этом вопросе - не поддерживаем!
А что поддерживаете?
Ответ был 100% единодушным:
МУЗЕЙ РАМАЯНЫ. Большой и в Айодхье!
И отдельной бегущей строкой через все послания:
Да. Рам Сету - сейчас на повестке дня. Не дать разрушить. Всё остальное ушло на задний план.

@темы: Рамаяна

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Ещё немного, ещё чуть-чуть

Чандра предсказывает Лобхасура.. Вчера был Бхаяасур. Сагары оригинальничают с ракшасовыми именами.
Надеюсь, через неделю мы вернёмся в прежнюю колею, если ничего экстраординарного не произойдёт..
Впрочем, хватит жаловаться! Пойду "Джай Шри Кришна" посмотрю.. Кстати, там политика тоже есть, а не говорят о ней, потому что по сериалу, Кришна ещё не вернулся в Матхуру, да и меня в обсуждалках нет. Кстати, а ведь может случится так, что оба сериала совпадут в одной виртуальной точке - в Мадхупуре/Матхуре. Вот будет весело, если мистер Чоудхари и там и там будет..

@темы: Джай Шри Кришна, Рамаяна

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Рабочее - проматываем

1. which is the only kand in ramayan named after one of the important character in ramayan.?
2. what is the name of lord shivas bow which was lifted by ramji in the swamvar?pinaka
3. which incarnation of lord Vishnu appears both in the ramayan and mahabharat?parshuram
4. how is ramayan also called ( because written by valmiki)valmiki ramayan
5. which festival is celebrated when lord ram returns to ayodhya.?diwali
6. on the banks of which river the kingdom of kosala is situated?saryu
7. in ramayan which devta ia considered as the father of vali?indra
8. what is the name of kumbkaran's wife?bajramala
9. which was the yagna performed by king dasharat to get sons?putrakameshti
10. who is the kulguru of mithila?
11. what was the name of the son of blind parents who was killed mistakenly by king dasharath?saban kumar
12. what is the name of the lankan physician who advised sanjeevani herbs to cure lakshman?susen
13. what was the name of the rishi who cursed vishnuji for killing his wife?bhrigu
14. who was Brahmaa's son who was born from Brahmaa's yawn?rakshas
15. what was the name of daughter of rakshas king sumali?kaikasi

@темы: Рамаяна

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Браво! Браво! Браво!

Actually I was thinking on the same lines...my feeling is:"So what if our folk tales are rich in tradition, how do they really contribute to the histrocity of Ramayan ? Not to sound too much political but our 'secular' gov'ts in north n south are bent upon in proving that Ram and Ramayan are a pure fiction (the serial just goes to vent this feeling)the govt even produced false verses saying that Rama broke the Ramsetu before returning to ayodhya with Sita n others . which is not at all true, infact our (ancient) Purans always mention as Ram-setu as sacred and appeals to all citizens that it should be a protected site .
On the lighter note: 'All popular folk tales does mean :
arabian nights, Vikram -betal , Vidhi ka vidhan et all
all these have been included much to our dismay and screwing up Ramayan

Да только, кто б нибудь тебя услышал, дорогой!!

@темы: Рамаяна

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И ещё картинки

Тоску развеять.. хехе

@темы: Рамаяна

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Поспамить, что ли картинками?

Скучно как-то..
Хочу зрелищо!!

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Ну вот, спасибо Чандре!

Но переводить ленииивооо... Последний апдейт.
As you asked, the very brief update here.

Part 1 shows Kush dragging along the chandal Hanuman with him, and the latter acting like a real wuss, protesting every step of the way about how scared he is. Finally, they get to a stream and from the stream, 2 rakshashas appear before them, and the Chandal baba protests to Kush that he's too scared of drowning. Kush points out that the water is shallow, but the Chandal baba still fears it. While they are arguing, 2 rakshashas emerge from the stream - normal size, not like Chakrasura.

Part 2 Chandal baba tells Kush that he is scared, and covers Kush's eyes w/ his hands and orders him not to look. While Kush has his eyes shut, Hanuman takes his original form and fights and beats back the rakshashas who flee back into the stream. Hanuman then takes the chandala baba form back and allows Kush to open his eyes, and Kush sees the fleeing rakshashas. Hanuman tells Kush - look, even they are afraid, so how can you be w/o fear? Then they continue.

Part 3 Luv is in the dungeon tied to a pillar, while the other kids are in a prison room. They ask him whether he isn't afraid, and Luv said that other than God and sin, I'm not afraid of anything, least of all a sinner like the rakshasha. They tell him that they are forced to do forced labor, and then starved.

Chakrasura appears, and one of the kids tells him that he is hungry. Chakrasura calls him to the door of the room, catches him by the hair and threatens him, and the kid apologizes for being hungry and withdraws. No other kid dares tell Chakrasura that he is hungry.

After Chakrasura leaves, a woman appears there before those kids with 2 thalis, and from one of them, the kids in the dungeon happily lap up what she offers them. She asks them to hurry before Chakrasura comes and catches her in the act. She then offers Luv from the 2nd thali, but Luv angrily knocks her plate of her hand, and tells her that he does not want to take food from a sinner. When she protests, Luv demands to know why she hasn't freed them. She says that it is impossible, and protests that Luv doesn't have the slightest idea what she is going thru.

Then Chakrasura returns and figures out that the woman has been feeding them, and is furious with her for doing so despite being warned. He draws his dagger, and is about to stab her, but Luv catches his hand before he can, thereby distracting him. Chakrasura then calls his guards and orders them to take Luv away. Luv is then taken to a more inner dungeon, where he is surrounded by a ring of fire, and is yelling. This is where the episode ends.

PRECAP: Luv is led to a ledge by the rakshasha guards who capture him while he is attempting his escape. They are about to throw him off the ledge, when Kush & Chandal baba see him. Luv is yelling, and Kush tells him not to be afraid and that he's there to rescue them.

If and when the actual update is posted, I'll comment. I may have missed out a lot of details above.

@темы: Рамаяна

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Я в ЖЖ - pavanaputra.

к вашим услугам.

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Рам-раджья? Какая такая рам- раджья?

.. мы снимаем только "Мирабаи"
сказал официальный представитель Sagar Arts.
А канал ND TV Imagine уже разместил рекламу нового сериала под рабочим названием "Ramrajya"... Хммм...

Ramayan has been totally fried by sagars. now they are on other show, they must understand the ramayan b4 going to launch something about ramrajya. how he twisted the show after rajyaabhishek everyone knows. he shoult atleast try to bring the epic on right track from now onwards but it seems he has fully determine to make this great epic a fairy tale

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Размышления по сериалу

Ну вот. Переводов эпизодов больше нет. Все забастовали. А показывают? Показывают ракшасов. Ох..

The actors whose real names I know is (if you're asking abt the actors in Ramayan serial)
Kuber is played by Raman Khatri, he also plays Valmiki

Amit pachori plays the role of Shivji

both ar reg Sagar actors, u'll find them in other sagar-serials too.

thats all I know...

@ Mallika di: u're right, the production houses act not less than any FBI when it comes to reveal the names of actors.

wonder if they themselves know itROFL vspace5 alignabsMiddle

@темы: Рамаяна