Эксклюзив. Только у меня - для вас

Вот она - Сита рекха:



Я не знаю, как он из круга вышел и с какими последствиями.


Laxman again requests Sita to return.
Sita - Laxman, always remember that raghuvanshis lay down even their lives for the sake of their words.
Laxman - Bhabhi, then I will also not return to Ayodhya. This is my personal decision. And I am free to take a personal decision.
Sita - Laxman, in raj-dharm, there is no meaning of personal sentiments. Therefore, I, the queen of Ayodhya, order you that you go back.
Laxman - I refuse to obey the orders of the queen of the kingdom where raj-dharm lacks sentiments.

Sita draws a line between Laxman and herself.
Sita - Laxman, in the vanvas, you drew a line and asked me not to cross it. Today I, Vaidehi Sita, have drawn this line taking my mind, words and acts as witnesses. And I request that you should not try to cross it. Troubles befell us when I crossed that line. Trouble may befell us if today you cross this line. Therefore, for the sake of both of us, you should return to Ayodhya.
Laxman - Bhabhi, I cannot even imagine how you will live in the forest alone.
Sita - Laxmna, I am not alone. My swami's memories are with me. They are my strength. Moreover, my swami's ansh is in my garbh. I have a last request to you. Like always, take care of your bhaiya.

Sita walks away from there. Laxman cries.

Precap - Valmiki welcomes Sita in his ashram.

Today's episode was somewhat better than 23 March's. But still, recently the episodes seem to be drag.

@темы: Рамаяна

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Закрытая запись, не предназначенная для публичного просмотра

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А что обсуждают?

А обсуждают вот что.
Когда-то три года тому назад я писал про шедевр телугу - кинематографа, фильм "Лава Куша". Даже пытался картинки выкладывать, но у меня мало что получилось, потому как качество записи на DVD было из рук вон. Я помещу линк, если найду в дневнике.
Типа - здесь www.diary.ru/~Padma/p11981135.htm

И вот сейчас, я получаю весь нектар! Не только все, как сумашедшие кинулись обсуждать этот фильм, но - постят капсы, слова и перевод песен и ясень пень, (yess... я был прав!!) обсуждают НТР и его влияние на исполнителя главной роли в "Рамаяне" нынешней!
Yahoo!! Гребу инфо лопатой!!

@темы: Рамаяна

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Сита - рекха

Я сейчас буду Сагарам стоя аплодировать! Сита-рекха - это же прорыв в индийской мифологии!!. Сагаров копирайт! За 5 тыс лет никто ведь до такого не додумался!!
А как эпизод-то выглядит, простите меня боги! (и радостно напевая Джая Лакшман..)
Нет, я остановлюсь пожалуй. Выложу попозже с картинками.. Хехе...

Нет, я не жалею,что преодолел себя! и продолжаю..

@темы: Рамаяна

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Хехехе

«Maybe someday, I should re-write the Ramayan - particularly the Uttarkand. If all these people can do it, so can I. All I need is sell someone the movie rights, so that people will hold my version in the same authentic mode as Valmikis, just as people now do with Sagar - either old or new - here. A good cast, and serial, and I'll be up and running. Hey, I'll even toss in enough of the other bros & bahus, so that everyone will have their hearts warmed and cite me when they want to discuss, say, Bharat & Mandavi's relationship.

Whaddya think?»

Я вдруг стал жутко оптимистичным! "Рамаяна" 2008 - выживет. Всё-таки у Вишну такое чувство юмора.. (а у последней аватары было и того лучше!).. за что и люблю...

Мой дневник всё больше и больше похож на дневник 15-летней школьницы, да? Я знаю!

Я не могу остановиться. В обсуждении трансцендентных игр что-то есть такое.. насладительно-сумашедшее. Давно замечено.

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Размышления по сериалу

Приговор сегодняшнему эпизоду:
Dude, if one thinks this over enough, this Sita is more of an Amazon than an Arya-stri
Я гляжу, что мне надо ещё два эпизода посмотреть, чтобы понять, как с Лакшманом дело кончится. Похоже, новые перлы вырисовываются.

Но вот весьма интенсивное обсуждение народом различных вариантов последствий пересечения Лакшманом (внимание - не путать!!) Ситиной рекхи (защитного круга), мне уже начинает нравиться... и очень... этакая лила...
Тем более, что Анкит Арора сейчас сильно выигрывает супротив Гурмита Чоудхари. Я даже к нему как-то потеплел..

@темы: Рамаяна

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Страдания по сериалу -2

... поэтому я возвращаюсь и освещаю.
А вот почему такая религиозно- эмоциональная волна меня захлестнула, разговор особый.
Итак, поговорим о Лакшмане.

продолжение следует...

@темы: Рамаяна

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Страдания по сериалу...

... или, когда ошибок не прощают.
После просмотра последних эпизодов, неожиданно я нашёл себя посередине того, что по английски называется словом "meltdown". (не знаю как по-русски сказать, честно).
Внутри меня всё кипело, меня трясло и я совершенно серьёзно подумывал закрыть дневник и про сериал больше не писать. Да, как это ни странно звучит, я, несмотря на всю свою толерантность, почувствовал, что мои религиозные чувства были оскорблены, в душу мне плюнули, а плевок - размазали.

Но я сказал себе: " Sit back, relaх. Аум.. Дыши глубже..."
Дневники упрямо показывали Bad Gateway,
я воспользовался перерывом, а потом Лакшми меня развеселила!
Пранам, Лакшми!

@темы: Рамаяна

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Изгнание Ситы...

Версия Сагаров.

Честно, я не уверен если сериал выживет после такого. Такой, нечасто встречающийся случай, когда игра актёров - великолепна, а сценарий (мягко говоря) - не совсем.
Сита уходит сама, командует Лакшману везти её в лес, (далее - по промо) отправляет Лакшмана обратно во дворец и теряется в джунглях, дабы никто никогда не смог узнать, где она есть. Версиями Вальмики и других авторитетных авторов даже не пахнет.
Народ - восстал. А иллюстрации - здесь:



Анкит Арора был великолепен. Мои аплодисменты!




















Jai Siya Ram
Laxman and Urmila are looking for Ram. From the way Laxman is again and again calling, "Ram bhaiya, bhaiya, where are you?", it is quite evident that he is very worried.
Laxman - Where could Ram bhaiya have gone in the middle of the night? All others are sleeping. But do not know what has happened to Ram bhaiya.
Urmila - There must be something serious.
Laxman - During exile in the forest, it never happened that Ram bhaiya went somewhere, like this, in the night.
Urmila - May be there is something, which he does not want to share with anybody.
Laxman - What could it be? Ram bhaiya cannot do any mistake in raj-dharm. The subjects are happy.
Urmila - In life, there are things besides raj-dharm too, swami. There are many problems and many secrets. There may be some trouble in his family life.

On the other hand, Ram is talking to Sita.
Ram - Sita, there is difference between family and raj-dharm. It is not proper to combine the two. Otherwise, family life will be in trouble.
Sita - Forgive me, swami, but you never took family life seriously.
Ram is shocked to hear this.
Ram - Have I committed some mistake?
Sita - I cannot dare to call it your mistake. But I can say that now you do not trust your Sita. If you do not treat Sita as an outsider, then you do not even consider her as your own. What I should have known from you, I came to know that from others.
Ram - You should forget all those talks.
Sita - Are you able to forget? You yourself said that we should even willingly face problems in personal life for the sake of subjects. You took promise from me that we should kill this new Ravan, which is in the minds of people, by making sacrifices. Keeping subjects happy has been the tradition of Raghukul. I, the princess of Mithila and the queen of Ayodhya, take a vow that even at the risk of my life, I will honour the tradition of this great dynasty.

I am really hating this idea of showing that Sita herself insisted on exile. Sagars think that they can justify the exile only by changing the story like this. But suppose, just for the sake of argument, that it would have been wrong if Ram had himself taken decision of exiling Sita. If so, then it was wrong to do so even if Sita herself demanded for it. Do Sagars want to say that if Sita demanded from Ram that he should harm her, then Ram was ready to harm her? And if the exile was right, then it was right even if it was Ram's own decision. It is also possible that the intention of Sagars is to show that Ram got convinced by the arguments of Sita. But they could have also shown that Ram got convinced to exile Sita by discussing with himself (atma-manthan). What was the need of changing the story? By changing the story, Sagars have not achieved anything good. Rather, they have shown Ram as weak.Angry

Sita walks away from there. Ram cries after him, "Site, do not leave me."
Of course, I do not like this changed story. But Gurmeet had to act as he was told. His acting is very good. The pain in his eyes is quite palpable.

Laxman and Urmila are continuing to search for Ram and Sita.
Laxman - Inform this to Bharat bhiaya. May be he knows something.

Sita is parying to the ancestors of Ram.
Sita - You all ancestors must be feeling ashamed that even after hearing so many things, the king of Ayodhya wants to keep his wife in the palace.
So now Sagars are trying to show that Ram's actions shamed his ancestors. Angry
Ram comes there.
Sita - Look swami, even your ancestors feel the same what I feel.
Ram - I know Sita that you are the kind of woman, who can give up all comforts for the sake of her husband, who can lay down her life for the honour of Raghukul. But Sita, for me...
Sita - Swami, we must accept what the situation demands. You are king. You have to take care of so many things. But I am only worried about you and the dynasty of Ayodhya. I cannot keep quiet if somebody blames you. If you had taken this decision, then I would have felt proud of you.

Laxman comes there.
Ram - Laxman, we are here to take a very important decision.
Laxman - What is that decision, bhaiya?
Ram - At the right time, you will come to know.
Saying this, Ram goes from there, facing difficulty in holding back his tears.

Sita is shown talking to her to-be-born child.
Sita - My dear, together with your mother, you are also going to face a tough test. In your father's raj-dharm, you also have to contribute. Therefore be ready together with your mother to walk on the path full of thorns. And you must accept my decision. Do you hear me, my dear? If yes, then promise me that you will support me in my journey. I take your silence as agreement and I am going to begin my journey(Very good actingSmile)

Raj-mahal aur raj-sukh, swajanon ka anurag
Swami ke hit mein chali, Sita sab kuchh tyag
Sita ki hai garbhavastha, van mein na koi suvidha na vyavastha
Aagat ka dukh bina vichare, chal di rajagya sir dhaare
Bandi-grih mein bandi ke nishchil hote saal
Sita ke vanvaas ka kintu anischit kaal
Dridh nishchay, sankalp atal hai, Sita se raghukul ka kal hai
Rakh li hai surakshit jah amul nidhi ram ki
Jab awashyakta seva aur vishram ki
Jab awashyakta seva aur vishram ki
Tab Ram tyagkar, chal di Laxmi dhaam ki
Siya Ram hi jane kya lila Siya Ram ki

Nice song. Especially the last line is the best.Smile

Ram is in his room, very worried. Sita is already in vanvasi dress. The background song says:-
O vidhna teri chaal samajh na aaye
O vidhna teri chaal samajh na aaye
To jisko jaise jab chahe, vaise naach nachaye
O vidhna teri chaal samajh na aaye
O vidhna teri chaal samajh na aaye
Raghuvar ko pati-roop mein paane
Siya gayi Gauri maat manane
Aganya anginat upvas jinke karan rakhe Siya ne
Dur unhi se jane ka ab manas lagi banane
Kyun hridayon ko laye nikattam, kyun phir dur hatayen
O vidhna teri chaal samajh na aaye

During the song, beautiful moments of Ram and Sita were played back.

Ram is pained to see Sita in vanvasi dress.
Ram - Sita, this vanvasi dress!
Sita - Maharaj, the sooner we accept the truth of my future life, the better it will be.
Laxman comes there.
Laxman - Bhabhi, what are you talking about? Bhaiya, what truth is bhabhi talking about?
Sita - Laxmna, the people of Ayodhya feel that having lived in Lanka, I am not fit to be the queen of raghukul. Therefore, for the sake of maintaining the honour of this great kul, I am leaving Ayodhya and going to forest. Maharaj's silent agreement is hidden behind my decision. I do not wish to be an obstacle in Maharaj's raj-dharm. Therefore, I am going to forest.
Laxman - No bhabhi, I will not let you do this.
Sita - Laxman, whole life, you have honoured my words and feelings. For the last time, I wish that, considering this as my order, you accompany me till the forest. I am the king's other half. There his feelings are also hidden in my feelings.
Laxman - Bhabhi, I refuse to obey this order.
Sita - If you cannot fulfill my wish, then I will go alone.
I liked the way Sita was talking to Laxman here. The way she was smiling showed her affection towards Laxman very well. Smile
Sita takes Ram's blessings.
Sita - Give me your blessings that I succeed in my aim.
She touches Ram's feet and Ram blesses her.
Sita goes out. Ram is pained but does not stop her.
Laxman - Bhaiya, if this is your decision, then I am ready to accept it. But, before going, let me tell you my decision that I, the son of Dashrath, will not come back to Ayodhya. And nobody can overturn my decision, not even you.

Сагары рехнулись!

Laxman goes out. Ram sits down crying.

I did not like the story. But the actors performed excellently. Anger is considered bad. Lekin agar gussa Laxman ke jaisa ho, to achchha.

@темы: Рамаяна

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Ой

Насчёт картины "Выход к океану".
Я не знаю, откуда она взялась! Нет, она - у меня в компе, но откуда я её скачал, ни понятия! На картине нету лого ND TV Imagine, как на других кадрах и выглядит она, как широкоформатная. Чудно!
А сама композиция - хороша. Я бы деньги заплатил за то, что бы такую картину, маслом на холсте и большую, дома повесить, ей Богу! Поза Рамачандры - классический этюд. Или как там это называется...

@темы: Рамаяна

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Вздыхая тяжко, как змея, посаженная в кувшин

Расскажу немного, что сейчас с сериалом происходит.
Сильное отторжение сценария последних трёх эпизодов. Хрупкий баланс был нарушен и старая версия была признана победившей по всем пунктам в данном конкретном месте.
Тем не менее, Гурмит находится на трансцендентном уровне ко всему этому неприятию. Он - блистает. Со слезами на глазах и разбитым сердцем раджа Рам прекрасен, как никогда. Gurmi ka jawab nahi! так это по-ихнему звучит...
Впервые за всё время показа он (Гурмит Чоудхри) был официально сравнён с SRK.
Я - не специалист в Болливудских сокращениях, но что-то мне подсказывает, что это.., а впрочем - вы наверно сами догадались.
Будем надеятся, что со следующего эпизода положение исправится. А иллюстрации я позже выложу.

@темы: Рамаяна

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А что показывают?

Блин. Как же народ Уттару Канду - изгнание Ситы не любит. Перестали апдейты писать.
Даа..
Нет - эпизод показали. Гурмит, как всегда, блистал. Народ только сценарий не любит. Сита ушла в изгнание. Реакции на серию - очень разные. Нельзя сказать, хорошо или плохо.

@темы: Рамаяна

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Пойду проверю, чего показывают...

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Пояснение к посту предыдущему

Нет, всё-таки Сагары хорошую вещь сделали. Потому что, в середине Кали Юги, мы, как дураки сидим в виртуалье и обсуждаем лилы Вишну. Ну, а что все события Махабхараты начинаются в Рамаяне, факт хорошо известный.
Кришна, как принц, имел свою армию, армию фанатичных бойцов Шамшаптаков. (Я догадываюсь, этакие феддаины, как у Саддама, а? )
И вот все эти люди, которые были фанатично преданы Кришне (потому и пошли в этот спецназ) были задействованы только один раз и против объекта своего фанатизма!!! Нееет, воистину, аватара была лучше оригинала!
Так кто же были эти спецназовцы? Бывшие демоны/асуры/ракшасы?? "Нет,"- отвечает анонимный юзер очередного виртуального форума."Они были жителями Айодхьи! Поплатились за свою "преданность" Нараяне!"
Я обнаружил себя в волне трансцендентного экстаза, и, берегитесь, я ж щас спамить про Кришну начну! Благо на канале Colors очередной сериал Сагаров идёт, Джай Шри Кришна называется. Кришна там хоть и маленький, но азартно мочит демонов, а Канса - это просто песня! Ultimate evil во всей асурской красе, это надо ВИДЕТЬ. Сагары - мастера демонов изображать, гораздо лучше, чем...

@темы: Махабхарата, Шьям рулит, Рамаяна, Творчество фанатов

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Ооооййй

Асур, мы не одиноки!! О сверкающий жемчуг!!
Я рыдалъ...

I still don't get it how they were able to tear Sita Devi from Ram even within their minds . . .

I agree that this in no way justifies them accusing Maharani Sita.

In Duryodhan's Army???

Why not make them Lavanasur's breakfast? Evil SmileEvil SmileEvil Smile

Given Vishnu's sense of humor, he probably promised them that they'd be his Shamshaptakas in the Dwapar yuga - the army of fanatical fighters that Krishna had. And when it actually came to using them, Krishna gave them to Duryodhan, and they found themselves on the opposite side of him and Arjun. Am sure they appreciated the fact that all their Narayan bhakt resulted in them serving evil.Evil SmileEvil SmileEvil SmileEvil SmileEvil SmileEvil SmileEvil Smile


Гы!!!

@темы: Махабхарата, Рамаяна, Творчество фанатов

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Из серии Бессмертная классика

«Он стоял вполоборота к родичу, у стены, покрытой многоцветной росписью, и внимательно изучал жизнеописание царя Бхагиратхи, сведшего некогда Гангу с небес на землю.»
Поизучайте и вы, уважаемые! Какой же эпос без Ганги!





Хороша Ганга!

@темы: Рамаяна

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А что обсуждают?

Age matters..
Дааа...
девочки развлекались! Гы...


I know. All these numbers confuse me as well. I just wish all the versions follow a specific number. I actually grew up learning that Ram and Sita were exiled soon after their marriage, so Sita was 14 almost 15 and Ram was 16, but then someone told me that they lived many years in Ayodhya before Dasharath proclaimed Ram as Yuvraj. And they told me that Ram was 23 when he was exiled and Sita 14. That means they had 9 years age difference, and we know for sure from Valmiki Ramayan that Ram was almost 16 when he went with Vishvamitra. So does that mean that Sita was 7 when she was married? But it's kind of hard imagining a 7 year old and a 16 year old falling in love with each other in the Pushp Vatika, doesn't it?


Anyone good at math here unlike me? How old was Sita when she went into the earth?

1. I think initial calculation was right, and she was ~42. All numbers below are Sita's age, even after her passing. Note that I'm not assuming that Rama & Sita spent 12 years in Ayodhya before their exile, or else, they'd have had kids.

14: Sita gets married

14+14: RSL exile

28+2: Rama & Sita as queen

30+12: Sita's exile

42: Sita goes underground

2. For those who believe the 11000 year reign account, change the above to

28+10000: Rama & Sita as queen (the 2 years replaced by 10000)

10028+12: Sita's exile (these 12 years count in Rama's reign)

10040: Sita goes underground

10040+(1000-12): Rama rules w/o Sita after her passing

11028: Rama ends his journey on earth. He is a tender 11028

3. A variation of the above might be

28+9988: Rama & Sita as queen (the 2 years replaced by 10000)

10016+12: Sita's exile (these 12 years count in Rama's reign)

10028: Sita goes underground

10028+1000: Rama rules w/o Sita

11028: Rama ends his journey on earth. He is a tender 11028

P.S. The account about Rama being 25 and Sita being 16 is patently false, since the same account has Lakshman being 18, and we all know that Lakshman was born just a couple of days after Rama.

@темы: Рамаяна

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Рабочее - проматываем!

Гы! It was good!!!!!

I used to wonder about this as well; however, thinking about it, it seems to suggest itself. Since the objective here was to make the people of Ayodhya perfectly happy (since his rule was supposed to be ideal and perfect), his quitting the throne would have caused public unhappiness, and therefore have defeated the purpose of removing her from the throne in the first place. Otherwise, you are right - even Lakshman, who declined the yuvraj, would have been happy to swallow that poison for the sake of his bhaiya's and bhabi's happiness.

As for why he took the subjects with him, I agree with you on this, but have one theory why he did so. Ethically/morally, Kush and Luv wouldn't have been comfortable ruling the same people who had insulted his mother, because that would have been an insult to her memory in and of itself. Rather than put them in such a dilemma, Rama decided to solve that by taking them with him, so that none of his sons or nephews would have to accommodate them. So he did what he did, but I still think that allowing them to accompany him to Vaikuntha was a little much - after all, Vaikuntha belonged to the same Sita whose chastity had to be proven, and therefore they certainly didn't deserve to end up there. I do wish once the transfer was made, Vishnu had Yamaraj come and pick them up, and take them to where they belonged - Yamalok.

@темы: Рамаяна

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Закрытая запись, не предназначенная для публичного просмотра

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Технический вопрос

У меня вопрос ко всем, кто мой дневник посещает.
Я включаю видео с Ю тюба, но не знаю технических возможностей гостей.
Будет ли лучше, если я буду помещать, скажем, и несколько кадров из видео?

@темы: Рамаяна